I’m not. I watched the clip and am undecided while waiting for further evidence. I actually don’t care what LSF, Ethan Klein, or Destiny has to say about it.
I disregard their narrative and look at the picture and see with my own two eyes what appears to be a shock collar. The idea of Hasan using a shock collar isn’t that crazy. Like it or not they’re incredibly common.
I didn’t “repeat their narrative” I didn’t take their word for anything. I looked at the same picture and came to the same conclusions. It looked like it might be shock collar and I explained my reasoning very clearly. Now I am certain it’s a shock collar thanks to the clip where Hasan shows it off, including the strip of black electrical tape covering the holes where the contacts would be if they hadn’t been unscrewed. I looked at all the unedited clips and played around with stills in GIMP, myself.
For the record, I like and support Hasan generally, and probably will continue to even after this. I’ve successfully ignored and pushed back against the previous 999999 bullshit attacks on Hasan I’ve encountered. I even pushed back against arguments made by a couple of the people you were also pushing back against for different reasons. I am not claiming that he shocked Kaya in the clip, the dewclaw explanation seems perfectly reasonable.
Hasan is not leftist Jesus. He is fallible. Don’t put all your eggs in one basket. Broken clocks are right twice a day, and so on.
If I’m wrong about this I will drop all social media including hexbear and touch grass for an entire month.
The screenshot and theory you are now introducing is also from a destiny subreddit/discord.
They see a thing, they claim a negative story about it regardless of context, usually the worst possible interpretation, and then run with it. And those who are manipulated just say, “yeah okay, looks like LEDs/shock collar/he shocked her to me because you told me that is what happened” and it is just one big harassment-fest based on nearly nothing. The smart thing to do is to chill out and not get manipulated rather than making bets about touching grass or logging off or whatever. And to not do the same gullible thing again immediately.
It did look like LEDs, because they were in fact LEDs. It did look like a shock collar, because it is at best a vibration collar which is packaged in the same housing as a shock collar which is also on the market. Pushing back against people saying “oh it’s just an airtag” when it clearly isn’t just an airtag isn’t me falling for anything. Pushing back directly against someone ideologically aligned with you saying something which is in retrospect at least 90% correct, is still falling for it. I’m telling you to practice what you’re preaching and ignore what they’re saying. I’m not with them.
I never said he shocked her, or shocked her on purpose, in that clip.
It did look like LEDs, because they were in fact LEDs.
The claimed LEDs were some blurry white dots on both sides of the collar. The alleged shock collar / vibration device is just on one aide. The other was right where a metal clasp is.
It did look like a shock collar, because it is at best a vibration collar which is packaged in the same housing as a shock collar which is also on the market.
The same clip shows a GPS device. These are just nondescript black boxes.
Are you familiar with dowsers? These are people convinced they can find water with a sixth sense, aided by a stick. They can’t really do it, but there is enough water out there underground and in reasonable enough places that they confirm their biases and are convinced of their powers.
Pushing back against people saying “oh it’s just an airtag” when it clearly isn’t just an airtag isn’t me falling for anything.
The white circle is an airtag, isn’t it? It looks like how they brand those things. Not that it needed to be an airtag: it is a blurry circle on a video. Airtag is just a reasonable guess among many.
Pushing back directly against someone ideologically aligned with you saying something which is in retrospect at least 90% correct, is still falling for it.
Yes that’s 2 DDG narratives you have accepted and defended. There was no basis for it, it is blurry stuff on a video, the narrative they spun is what you ran with.
I’m telling you to practice what you’re preaching and ignore what they’re saying. I’m not with them.
Then why are you repeating claims that only come from them? Surely you should default to racist Zionists not being on the up-and-up.
I never said he shocked her, or shocked her on purpose, in that clip.
I’m not. I watched the clip and am undecided while waiting for further evidence. I actually don’t care what LSF, Ethan Klein, or Destiny has to say about it.
You are… doing exactly that. “Maybe the DDGer gangstalkers are right” is an accurate characterization of the initial comment I replied to.
Their narrative is the reason you are talking about it and the content of your post comes from their narrative.
I disregard their narrative and look at the picture and see with my own two eyes what appears to be a shock collar. The idea of Hasan using a shock collar isn’t that crazy. Like it or not they’re incredibly common.
You literally repeated their narrative, the origin of this “story”. You did the opposite of disregarding it lol.
Please hexbear I am trying to help you.
I didn’t “repeat their narrative” I didn’t take their word for anything. I looked at the same picture and came to the same conclusions. It looked like it might be shock collar and I explained my reasoning very clearly. Now I am certain it’s a shock collar thanks to the clip where Hasan shows it off, including the strip of black electrical tape covering the holes where the contacts would be if they hadn’t been unscrewed. I looked at all the unedited clips and played around with stills in GIMP, myself.
For the record, I like and support Hasan generally, and probably will continue to even after this. I’ve successfully ignored and pushed back against the previous 999999 bullshit attacks on Hasan I’ve encountered. I even pushed back against arguments made by a couple of the people you were also pushing back against for different reasons. I am not claiming that he shocked Kaya in the clip, the dewclaw explanation seems perfectly reasonable.
Hasan is not leftist Jesus. He is fallible. Don’t put all your eggs in one basket. Broken clocks are right twice a day, and so on.
If I’m wrong about this I will drop all social media including hexbear and touch grass for an entire month.
The screenshot and theory you are now introducing is also from a destiny subreddit/discord.
They see a thing, they claim a negative story about it regardless of context, usually the worst possible interpretation, and then run with it. And those who are manipulated just say, “yeah okay, looks like LEDs/shock collar/he shocked her to me because you told me that is what happened” and it is just one big harassment-fest based on nearly nothing. The smart thing to do is to chill out and not get manipulated rather than making bets about touching grass or logging off or whatever. And to not do the same gullible thing again immediately.
It did look like LEDs, because they were in fact LEDs. It did look like a shock collar, because it is at best a vibration collar which is packaged in the same housing as a shock collar which is also on the market. Pushing back against people saying “oh it’s just an airtag” when it clearly isn’t just an airtag isn’t me falling for anything. Pushing back directly against someone ideologically aligned with you saying something which is in retrospect at least 90% correct, is still falling for it. I’m telling you to practice what you’re preaching and ignore what they’re saying. I’m not with them.
I never said he shocked her, or shocked her on purpose, in that clip.
The claimed LEDs were some blurry white dots on both sides of the collar. The alleged shock collar / vibration device is just on one aide. The other was right where a metal clasp is.
The same clip shows a GPS device. These are just nondescript black boxes.
Are you familiar with dowsers? These are people convinced they can find water with a sixth sense, aided by a stick. They can’t really do it, but there is enough water out there underground and in reasonable enough places that they confirm their biases and are convinced of their powers.
The white circle is an airtag, isn’t it? It looks like how they brand those things. Not that it needed to be an airtag: it is a blurry circle on a video. Airtag is just a reasonable guess among many.
Yes that’s 2 DDG narratives you have accepted and defended. There was no basis for it, it is blurry stuff on a video, the narrative they spun is what you ran with.
Then why are you repeating claims that only come from them? Surely you should default to racist Zionists not being on the up-and-up.
Yes I know.