Also this comment:
I will not be spinning up instances of anything. I will seed hashes in bittorrent-like P2P networks, I will put my posts where they fit, I will look for posts from others in the most anti-censorship ways I can find, and I will hope devs and server admins create a version of Lemmy that’s fitting for more of my posts - while hurrying toward a possible future where Tor isn’t enough to make Lemmy relevant anymore, because P2P networks become the only place worth posting anything.
For once, I’m sad we don’t federate with shit.just.doesntwork. There’s no such thing as a no censorship instance, because at the very least CSAM has to be filtered out. The whole concept of censorship has been weaponized by fascists who want to be able to infiltrate every space.
Freedom of preach
I wish hexbear was more chill about piracy though.
Hexbear is absolutely pro piracy
The ToS is not pro piracy
Most likely that’s to limit legal liability. I’ve never seen anybody get blasted for advocating for piracy or against piracy on hexbear.
That’s what I want to get at. There is a certain amount of ass covering going on.
I don’t care about advocating piracy but if I started posting warez to /c/gaming it would probably get removed.
If you start posting random links to warez in a way that’s basically spamming/advertising, yeah it’ll get removed.
Sorry, we do not want c/gaming to become just a zillion links to software nobody cares about, and we aren’t a .torrent aggregator. We just don’t want to blot out posting by becoming a glorified RSS feed of torrents.
If you’re replying to a comment looking for something difficult to find with a relevant magnet link or something, that’s probably fine as long as ya know it’s not a virus.
If you uploaded warez files directly to the instance that probably would get removed, and imo rightfully so we shouldn’t get this community obliterated for hosting files that can be found elsewhere with better download speeds(and privacy by using magnetised and proxiedied torrenting if you care to put the effort in)
posting links to other places hosting the files is fine, I’ve done it myself and never had any pushback from users, mods or admins
i.e the music comm post links to music hosted by people other than the official rights holder’s constantly
Of course citizen! :pirate-jammin: is totally not cool! Please ignore me gesturing with my eyes and mouthing “look over there” :angel-biblical-shh:
nothing to see here citizen!
I’m not sure what you expected to find here, citizen. Isn’t it a lovely day under Capitalism?
I shall now go and post only good things about our economic system.
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It’s self-protection against aggressive content companies via plausible deniability. As a public instance anybody can look at what we post including the content police. Because it’s Federated anybody can receive our federated broadcasts including content police. It’s very similar to why we don’t post :cool-zone: stuff because we know the :fedposting: are watching. We don’t like it, it really does suck, but we also don’t want Hexbear targeted because we got too spicy and we bring heat on the admins. I mean, we are here for doing a little :john-brown: posting (as a treat) on :reddit-logo: after all.
However we do federate with :straw-hat-pirates: instances, and there are specific comms for different media in the instance above you can subscribe to. They are better equipped to defend themselves against content companies’ shenanigans.
To be a pirate sometimes you must not appear as a pirate when the :porky-point: is looking.
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Community is pro piracy in general, gotta be careful about posting certain things like direct download links in open chat though.
That’s what I mean. It’s cool when stuff is censored when the community doesn’t like it but in this case stuff is censored even though the community likes it.
that’s probably just to protect the sources from gathering undue attention? i can’t imagine why else they would be censored
Dropping direct links can attract unwanted attention from authorities, its also a way for a bad actor to get somebody infected with a virus or a malicious file.
Like, asking for a direct download link to the next Zootopia film and getting a link to a CSAM video in a public comment is very not worth it.
Yeah but the reason is probably not wanting lawyers and feds up their asses. Which is fair but also kind of supports the point the original poster we are dunking on was making.
The CSAM link should obviously get moderated away. Since we all don’t want CSAM in our community (I hope). A link to Zootopia should stay up.
Except that somebody will have to click the publicly available link to the malicious file without knowing its a malicious file.
Its not an arbitrary act of censorship on behalf of the moderators or community, its an act of self defense. There’s no rule that says you cannot, after asking, get a link in a private message.
I don’t get the argument. Hexbear doesn’t ban links in general.
The ToS also doesn’t mention that we shouldn’t post warez to avoid malware but to respect IP law.
I’m not all that plugged into the moderator team’s actions, if any, regarding this issue.
I have noticed, on occasion, commenters to posts about piracy sometimes mention that is might not be the best idea to drop links to pirated things in publicly visible comments and posts. This may/may not cause a short conversation about the self censorship of posting direct links to piracy sites in general or particular pirated media.
I’m assuming this is what the original commentator is referring to.
is it not? i’ve never seen anything pro-piracy removed
I think the only thing ive ever gotten any pushback on over the years ive asked for help getting stuff is an obscure punk album that I couldn’t pay the bandcamp price for and wanted to rip it from the site. Generally I think this place is pretty open about it, innit?
What are you talking about?
Where’s the piracy community jack?
c/movies, c/anime, c/games, c/technology