• hello_hello [comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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    I mean this comes from the reactionary “suckless” philosophy that claimed that bloat (basically synonym for “woke”) has ruined Linux.

    So we have bottom feeder projects like hyprland that attract users like flies because they market themselves as “cutting edge and minimal” when in reality they will waste more of your time that you’ll never get back.

    Usually these chuds overlap with the GNOME haters because GNOME is violently queer so you get these half assed attacks against gnome that never stand up to scrutiny (I swear nearly all “critiques” of gnome are just petty user complaints masquerading as such).

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      I’ve never seen a suckless person like hyprland. Hyprland meets every definition of their “sucky”. I don’t see how anyone could call Hyprland “minimal”; it’s about as bloated and sloppy as a tiling environment can be without being a full on DE.

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        I have it on my machine cause bspwm was broken when I decided to check back in on tiling wm about a year ago. It has become so inconsistently usable that I barely use that box and just ssh into it. Its upsetting the amount of time it wasted for me and that was before I found out it is run by nazis.

        Fun fact: last I checked the lock screen blur uses 4+ GB of GPU ram for no reason at all. Like it just live renders a static blur the entire time the screen is locked

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      hyprland isn’t “suckless” at all. Even a normal person will go “wow this sucks” at the sight of the hyprland codebase and the way they do things.
      Most of the “suckless” software has the benefit of depending on old, massive X11 swiss knife libs that haven’t really changed in the last 30+ years and are available on most UNIX-like Systems, which makes compiling it from source trivial.
      If X was still under active development then all the “suckless” software would only be “suckless” on OpenBSD, because those guys have their own fork of X11 that hasn’t been touched since the end of the 2nd Century.

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        I mean the issue I take with suckless is that it still can suckmore. X11 as a toolkit library and as the base for a xorg server window manager impl is just treating X as a load bearing dependency.

        But besides that, I think people took the wrong lesson from suckless and thought it just meant “less = more.” So we get projects like hyprland that think they’re superior because they have less “bloat” or whatever.

        In a not too distant future, GNOME will be more suckless than DWM and the suckless folks dont actually care to learn why.