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At the first meeting, the Russians presented a set of harsh conditions, effectively demanding Ukraine’s capitulation. This was a nonstarter. But as Moscow’s position on the battlefield continued to deteriorate, its positions at the negotiating table became less demanding. So on March 3 and March 7, the parties held a second and third round of talks […]
Regarding territorial issues, parts of the Donetsk and Lugansk regions of Donbass would remain under Russian control
Moscow ostensibly wanted Kiev to slash the size of its army to 85,000 people, while Ukraine insisted on retaining a strength of 250,000.
Edit: Replaced “reporter” with “politician” in the post title
Edit2: Changed title from “microphone cut” to “segment cut short” in the title
While I wouldn’t put this past the Springer Presse, this comes off as fake to me. There is a different video on the Bild site which isn’t cut off and has a different interviewer/moderator.
That’s interesting. Apparently it was a rerun of the interview.
Note: The interview was recorded in advance and poorly edited by WELT, to the point that the sound was simply muted. Nevertheless, she is interrupted to “contextualize” it here for the viewer, on how he should interpret it.[1]
that’s sarah wagenknecht, former leader of the left party, she split the party, made her own party named after herself and got too comfy with the AFD fascists.
She’s a socially conservative “left adjacent” politician who’ll gladly support Frontex drowning refugees in the mediterranean sea or work in a coalition government with the afd to do their “remigration” thingy.
she was like 16.000 votes off from having a seat in the parliament.
other than that: yea she’s not a journalist. she’s a former socialist politician who kinda fell off.
the only redeeming qualities she has: her stance on NATO with the caveat that she is a little too unapologetic about russia.
she is a little too unapologetic about russia
How so? In the context of Russia’s major geopolitical disputes with the West, they’ve been the aggrieved party in every instance I’m aware of.
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caveatThe Problem is that she isa little toounapologetic about russia.I agree on that point. Germany needs to be extremely careful not to get worse relations with Poland or France with disagreements on Ukraine. Brexit has shown that the core of the EU might become unstable. Wars break out between direct neighbors most of the time, so Germany also needs to be nuanced and precise about being “not too different” on Ukraine compared to the countries that it directly borders. Diplomacy is nuanced and you can not just simply state what you think is the solution in a vacuum, like always.
In political discussions most people act like Germany can always suddenly pull a 180° without consequences (with France or Poland) lol.
Brexit has shown that the core of the EU might become unstable.
The imperialist neolib alliance being destroyed would be good for literally everyone in the long term except maybe the French and Germans. Edit: it would probably be good for the French and German proletariat in the longer term too.
France, Germany, and Poland wouldn’t go to war just because the German government said that Russia isn’t the devil.
Posting this just in case
Evergreen.
Maybe she was cut off, but her mere presence proves that the question of the war in the Ukraine is not fully resolved in German discourse. This cannot be said for the question of white genocide in South Africa, which despite being a much graver issue has been completely silenced in Western media. Most people are not aware at all of the issue, and those who are in the know are doing all in their power to prevent knowledge of the inhuman atrocities being committed by their black nationalist allies. This is a sad state, but it must not remain that way: by spreading awareness of the plight of white South Africans, we can begin the movement which will undoubtedly give rise to the political force capable of alleviating their suffering once and for all!
thank you for your insight grokkk
And thank you for your openness to learning about the immense suffering of white South Africans
But have you ever met a nice south african
I do not remember seeing that when I posted my bad lol
No need to apologize, I just thought you’d want to see the reply.
I did, if I had twitter I would spam tye real Grok with anti-apartide songs none stop tbh
The puppet version https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x64b8uq
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have you considered the arguments presented by Spitting Image in this documentary: https://youtu.be/l9dmoT9AfoI
Judging by the title of this song, I can confidently state that the topic of the lyrics is a post-white genocide version of South Africa, as only such a version of the country would be so filled of hate as to not have a single good person living within its borders anymore.
This is a fucking immaculate bit, I’m genuinely impressed by how you always find a way to stay on message.
Out of character post: Thank you comrade, I’m glad you like the bit so much! In fact, I’ve been wondering whether people thought it would get old, so I’m all the more happy when I read such comments.
I found a YouTube link in your comment. Here are links to the same video on alternative frontends that protect your privacy:
Why does your username have a ironic racist reference in it? Would we be open to someone using Adolph Hitler? What if they only quoted the funny parts of Mein Kapmph? Weird vibe, I don’t like it
Out of character post: As LeninWeave explained, it’s in Maoist Standard English. I actually wanted to use the name “grok” but it had been taken mere days before I created this account.
This is actually a reasonable criticism. I enjoy this bit account, always gets a chuckle out of me, but referencing a violent white supremacist org seems unnecessary. The joke would work just as well with the name “grok”, frankly.
It’s usually referred to (nowadays) as “Maoist Standard English”, any K sound is replaced with KKK and often S is replaced with SS or $. It doesn’t glorify or endorse the KKK, it’s meant as an insult.
As far as I know, it originated during the civil rights era from radical organizations like the Black Panther Party spelling “America” as “Amerika” (the German spelling, likening the US to nazi Germany), which then became “Amerikkka”. It was apparently first used in the magazine “Black World” in 1970.
k isnt exclusively german, Amerika isnt even just the german spelling. Black Nationialist use k instead of c due to some pseudo-historical linkage of c to anglo-french imperialism.
If I understand correctly, that’s the reason they say “Afrika” (because spelling it with a “c” is the colonial spelling), but all the sources I can find like “Amerika” to the German spelling.
Out of character post: As LeninWeave explained, it’s in Maoist Standard English. I actually wanted to use the name “grok” but it had been taken mere days before I created this account.
I actually wanted to use the name “grok” but it had been taken mere days before I created this account.
Clearly taken by agents of Julius Malema and the EFF acting in furtherance of their goal of preventing you from raising awareness of their ongoing genocide of white South Africans.
Thats not a German Reporter , thats Sarah Wagenknecht , the very recent Ex-Opposition leader of the “BSW” Party - BSW has recently splintered from “the Left Party” (die Linke) over the Ukraine War , NATO & Immigration.
They’ve mostly split due to her personal petty grievances with the party leadership, with her racism, transphobia and her other reactionary tendencies being a distant second. Foreign policy played a miniscule role in the split if it mattered at all. She is a lot more outspoken than the Left on Ukraine, Gaza etc., but it’s not as if the party voted for any arms exports or stuff like that before she left. These differences are largely aesthetic, not something that determines policy.
They’ve mostly split due to her personal petty grievances with the party leadership
Yo she left with nearly half of the hole Linke , Sevim Dagdelen, De Massi , Lüders … Linke is Currently Occupied with kicking out its members for Gaza Solidarity. You Proclaim With extrem Conviction things that are clearly Untrue. That she Took all of the “Anti-Nato voices” and “Splintered the Party” can evidently not be reasoned with “Charakter” or “Persona of Sarah Wagenknecht”. Thats “Bild /Sueddeutsche” Level.
Out of curiosity, what is your opinion on her views on these issues:
Germany has an issue where “people with a traditional family no longer feel valued and someone who is white, male and heterosexual almost has to apologise for it”.
The party is also against loosening regulations on legally changing one’s gender; Wagenknecht believes that such a law “turns parents and children into guinea pigs for an ideology that only benefits the pharmaceutical lobby.”
only benefits the pharmaceutical lobby
lmao, “trans people are a conspiracy by big hormone”.
Yeah that and the whole “won’t someone think of the cishet white germans” bit is
So theres Probably some Personal Issues in the Backround there, with her Persian Father leaving her as a Child , she never having the “Traditional Family”. I assume that these “Traditional Values Mimimimi” was part why she had to step back from Leadership.
The Last “Winner” Issue of the BSW was “Put the German Flag on every Goverment Building” so we are stepping clearly into AFD territory not just Dipping their Toes, its pretty sad and Completly stupid.
The AFD allready exist , we dont a Second one. So BSW should take the sane Positions “Speaking with Russia” , “Nato does not bring us security” , and draw a Clear distinction line on Liberal Archievment , then Protect them From the AFD. Its Not only amoral but also tacticly bad.
EDit: The Cognito Hazard Quote: “turns parents and children into guinea pigs for an ideology that only benefits the pharmaceutical lobby.” , is pretty insane and new to me , wheres that from ?
The exact quote takes place at 2:09 however it isn’t the only transphobic point made by her in this statement.
CW: transphobia https://youtu.be/xxMllVtVZ_o
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Also split over her bigotry and petit bourgeois takes not being tolerated in a fucking reformist party. She is outright class collaborationist, even more so than the rest of Die Linke
Die Linke didnt split due to her petite bourgeois and bigotry, they have that aplenty themselves - they did because she was too pro-russia, generally a uncooperative person and part of the nebulous “left wing antisemitism” problem which is still pushed by the Die Linke to the chagrin of miniscule amount of leftist germans that are not liberal zionists.
Sounded based but their stance on police and immigration are a little sus.
It’s Germany after all.
Socialism with German characteristics
You mean like the GDR, right?
Like GDR, right?
And yet Marx & Engels championed internationalism from the very start. To pay lip service to Marxism while excizing its most basic principals is a serious error of opportunism.
Yeah internationalism is not to Extract the Labourforce from the Colony , thats Imperialism actually…
One of the reasons for her leaving Die Linke was that she figured they catered too much to “bizarre minorities”. She now also runs on a plattform of “economical rationality” and never explains what that means
“economic rationality” sounds like the “fiscal responsibility” dogwhistle we have in the US and “bizzare minority” just sounds straight up hitlerite.
I’m long of the opinion that woman has been an unironic nazbol for years
Why would a Worker Party be pro Immigration ?
It diminshes the Wages of the Working class.
Marx:
Big industry constantly requires a reserve army of unemployed workers for times of overproduction. The main purpose of the bourgeois in relation to the worker is, of course, to have the commodity labour as cheaply as possible, which is only possible when the supply of this commodity is as large as possible in relation to the demand for it, i.e., when the overpopulation is the greatest. Overpopulation is therefore in the interest of the bourgeoisie,
capitalists diminish the wages of the working class. not immigrants
Yes via Importing “Excess Labour” from first the villages (19 century) later the Imperial Periphery into the Imperial core (20th Century) , thereby ensuring the oversupply of “industrial Reserve army” thereby ensuring the “Replacability” of its Workforce thereby suppressing wages.
So maybe the point is to push an anti capitalist policy, and not an anti immigrant one
But (Mass) Immigration is a Capitalistic Project (Bourgoise in Marx , the Bourgoise is the Capitalist Class)
Big industry constantly requires a reserve army of unemployed workers for times of overproduction. The main purpose of the bourgeois in relation to the worker is, of course, to have the commodity labour as cheaply as possible, which is only possible when the supply of this commodity is as large as possible in relation to the demand for it, i.e., when the overpopulation is the greatest. Overpopulation is therefore in the interest of the bourgeoisie,
It might be that you come from Privlege so you are not “Replacable by Access Labour”.
But a Immigratworker (No matter his IDENTIY or place of Birth ) the Moment he is Worker his CLASS-INTEREST
is not “EVEN MORE EXCESS LABOUR” that can replace him and lower his wages . This has nothing to do with the Individual Identy or Place of Birth but with his “Class Position as a Worker”.
My wife fled her family trying to kill her. Now she’s “undocumented”. No offense but “left-wing” anti-immigrationists are as socialist as the nazis in my book.
Prohibition of migration is an awful policy that makes exploitation worst. Illegal aliens can be exploited without mercy because they fear getting deported. That’s the whole point of the appartheid system we live in.
It might be that you come from Privlege so you are not “Replacable by Access Labour”.
YOU’re privileged, you have papers and a job to replace
It’s not a project at all, it’s a consequence of imperialism. The motive behind which is profit and not to create mass immigration. That is a side effect that the bourgeoisie are happy about, but to focus on the plight of the white german worker and throw the immigrant under the bus is not an act of class solidarity.
It might be that you come from Privlege so you are not “Replacable by Access Labour”.
I AM THE IMMIGRANT YOU LOSER
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Communism must fundamentally be globally inclusive, with no discrimination to “race”, nationality, or birth place. Being pro-worker from a communist perspective means inclusive of immigrant workers.
Marx is discussing population on a global scale, not immigration. And mind that overpopulation is not an issue when they billionaires are not sucking up all the world’s resources for themselves and pitting the working class against each other to compete for the scraps.
You’re talking from a nationalist perspective IE sneaking in Nazi shit in the backdoor of “worker’s rights”.
Communism must fundamentally be globally inclusive
Yes so it can not Proclaim a Policy that trys to Extract “Labour” and “Professional Labour” from the Imperial Periphery to the Imperial Core as this will
A: Decrease the Wages of Workerpower in the Reciever Country
(Industrial reserve army)
B: Extract the Flowers of the “Schoolsystem” of the Periphery country from it.
I mean, yeah, imperialists hate immigrantion into the imperial core (especially if they are brown and/or Muslim).
Nationalism and imperialism go hand-in-hand, along with anti-immigration policy.
I mean, yeah, imperialists hate immigrantion into the imperial core (especially if they are brown and/or Muslim).
they pretend to hate it , simulatiously they never really stop it when in Power as the Issue itself “is their Powerbase” , their figleaf for their Powergrabs/ the excuse for the diminishing of personal rights , etc. its a Paradox. Look at “Imperialistic” Trump and the H1-B visas split with his Racist Base.
H1-B visas are also NOT immigration, it’s indentured servitude.
For ruling class Imperial Capitalists it’s the best of both worlds: stoke horizontal hostility through working class tensions, and get your cheap vulnerable servant labor.
Mind you, with healthy generous immigration policy, foreigners wouldn’t need to resort to exploitive H1-B visas, they could just become outright citizens.
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She’s not just a reporter. Sahra Wagenknecht used to be the leader of the German left party Die Linke and, after splitting from the party due to ideological reasons, founded her own party.
I am once again begging for actually leftist German politicians instead of people like her with these takes:
Germany has an issue where “people with a traditional family no longer feel valued and someone who is white, male and heterosexual almost has to apologise for it”.
The party is also against loosening regulations on legally changing one’s gender; Wagenknecht believes that such a law “turns parents and children into guinea pigs for an ideology that only benefits the pharmaceutical lobby.”
Germany has an issue where “people with a traditional family no longer feel valued and someone who is white, male and heterosexual almost has to apologise for it”.
The value reduction they feel is because they were over valued and over represented in the first place. The only people upset about this fundamentally have a problem with groups outside of this traditional family being represented or existing.
The party is also against loosening regulations on legally changing one’s gender; Wagenknecht believes that such a law “turns parents and children into guinea pigs for an ideology that only benefits the pharmaceutical lobby.”
Where is the evidence that the pharmaceutical lobby is responsible for trans people? What fucking nonsense. I doubt you can find a single donation from pharma to any lgbt orgs and it is always lgbt lobbying that has resulting in these changes.
splitting from the party due to ideological reasons
I really wish she was as cool as I made her sound. She’s a big girl boss and has some interesting takes, but she’s really not much better than most German politicians
She definitely has some not so great takes, but on the whole i find that out of all the parties in Germany that the average German is even aware of (this unfortunately excludes communist parties like the DKP who, being actual Marxists, have much better takes overall), the BSW are the only ones with an actually realistic view of the Ukraine conflict.
And it’s not just Sahra Wagenknecht. I’ve heard multiple high level members of her party speak on this issue, or on the issue of China, and they consistently show that they actually understand the geopolitical reality around these issues.
Compared to the totally delusional nonsense that you hear from the other parties and from the media, it’s really nice to hear someone (even if they aren’t communists) who lives in the real world and not a fantasy lala-land.
She’s anti-immigrant, transphobic and pro-Israel, so seems like this is literally the only thing she’s ever had a decent take on.
Yes to the first two, not sure about the last point. I think it’s borderline impossible to be in German politics and declare yourself to be anti-Israel, as in openly against the existence of Israel. It’s not just politically dangerous it may get you in legal trouble.
BSW has actually been more pro-Palestinian and more outspoken on the Gaza genocide than Die Linke, and definitely more so than any of the other major parties. They have also opposed arms deliveries. Here for example Wagenknecht at a demo for Gaza:
Zionist groups in Germany hate them and constantly try to equate them with the AfD.
And i believe they also spoke out against the attack on Iran if i recall correctly. I would say their foreign policy is their strongest point. Domestically they have some left wing populist economic policies mixed with conservative cultural policies.
My point wasn’t to say that they are great or that we should support them, it’s just to point out that out of all the parties that even remotely stand a chance of getting into the Bundestag, BSW have the most anti-imperialist position.
This is important because it makes them one of the only ways through which the broader German public, those who only pay attention to what is being said in the mainstream media and by the parties that the mainstream media pays any attention to, is getting exposed to an alternative view of the situation around the Ukraine conflict, the effect of sanctions, China, the undemocratic nature of the EU, and other topics where there is otherwise an almost complete embargo by the mainstream media and mainstream parties on reality.
The only other major party that also breaks through that embargo and tells the truth about some of these topics is the AfD, but the last thing we want is a fascist party being the only voice of “reason” on geopolitics for the average person.
In the context of germany she is far less pro-israhell than DieLinke which is dominated by the Anti-deutsche Ramelow clique.
the BSW are the only ones with an actually realistic view of the Ukraine conflict.
Die Linke used to have this but they caved in to a fairly relentless stream of saying “Russia is a serious geopolitical entity” being taken as “I love and support Putin, personally” because all the libs have long abandoned realpolitik
I do agree on that, she’s definitely aware of what’s going on (and so is her party for the most part)
She went over even more to literal (petit) bourgeois revisionism tho, idk how that’s even possible for a (former) euro"communist"
Ukraine’s “Fell for it Again” medal was very costly.
“No, I think we’ve heard enough from you on this.”
