• tyler@programming.dev
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    23 days ago

    Sources:

    • china news propaganda site
    • medium article from rando
    • project syndicate link which is an op-ed site (not news)
    • a wiki page from an incredibly biased group
    • a youtube link…
    • a site calling itself a news site, yet no actual credentials, but seems to be associated with China (Ajit Singh has written Chinese propaganda books)
    • a substack link

    This has to be the least compelling list of evidence one could provide, and yet you get upvotes because it looks like you’ve provided proof of something. All you’ve done is provide a lot of incredibly, seriously biased opinions with no actual facts at all.

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      23 days ago

      Wow, I wonder why there aren’t any Western corporate media sources with a Media Bias/Fact Check seal of approval…

      Previously:

      The first step is to understand the media, which Media Bias/Fact Check and the Ad Fontes Media* are never going to teach you. The only people who are taught it are those who get degrees in marketing, public relations, political science, history, and journalism; and even then only some of them.

      The new post-Trump/“post-truth” media literacy curricula won’t teach it to you either, because it was paid for and crafted by the US military-industrial complex: New Media Literacy Standards Aim to Combat ‘Truth Decay’.

      This week, the RAND Corporation released a new set of media literacy standards designed to support schools in this task.

      The standards are part of RAND’s ongoing project on “truth decay”: a phenomenon that RAND researchers describe as “the diminishing role that facts, data, and analysis play in our political and civic discourse.”

      None of it is a secret, though, and it can be learned.


      * I’ve criticized MBFC & Ad Fontes before:

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        22 days ago

        Nobody said anything about MBFC. Good luck, like I said in another comment I’m not going to argue with anyone from .ml. I was pointing out the faults in your sources because they’re not proper sources no matter what region of the world you’re from.

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          21 days ago

          “Waaaaaaaaah waaaaaaaaaah! I’m a little baby incapable of citing sources, I’m not gonna talk to you .ml demons.”

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        22 days ago

        I’m absolutely not going to provide sources or even argue with anyone from .ml on an .ml community because it’s pointless. You all do not care about proper sourcing and think it’s even a detractor because it’s “western”. I’m pointing out the problems with the sources for all the other people that are observing that comment and being swayed, because it’s a bunch of baloney.

        • Cowbee [he/they]@lemmy.ml
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          22 days ago

          You’re conflating “proper sourcing” with being western, that’s already an error, and second of all it’s the west that has been most prominently pushing the genocide theory. Of course it’s going to be contested by China. The validity of sources used by posts on YouTube and Medium aren’t in question because of where they are hosted, they are often hosted on these kinds of platforms because opposing western narratives gets you blacklisted.

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            22 days ago

            If that were true then non western sources would have plenty of news articles, yet all ml users post are things directly from Russia or China or “alternative” “sources” like medium (which isn’t a source). There are plenty of regimes that do not align with anything America has to say, yet no news articles from them.

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              22 days ago

              Not really true. We post sources from all over, especially groups like Al Mayadeen that post in English. If we post something in spanish from Granma, for example, people can’t read that.

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      22 days ago

      Would you prefer something from America’s own fox news or New York Times?

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        21 days ago

        No, neither. You’re making up a position and pretending like I believe that to make my argument look weak. I’m not the one posting shit sources.

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          21 days ago

          You’re not posting any sources at all. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.

    • تحريرها كلها ممكن@lemmy.ml
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      20 days ago

      I trust OIC and Muslim countries more than I trust any Western source. It is borderline farcical for Western governments and media to pretend to care about the welfare of Muslims in China while directly or indirectly enabling the genocide and ethnic cleansing in Palestine and invasions and war crimes in many other countries as well as the discriminatory policies in their own countries.