Just that. Someone uploaded this photo of Zelensky allegedly taking a selfie in Kupiansk, which is supposed to be a city already taken by Russian forces. I am not really informed of the situation in Kupiansk, but this is not the issue for me.

In the Politics subreddit, where this was published, the comments are overwhelmingly pro Ukraine, which, well, checks out. But what I find kind of trollish, are the comments surrounding Zelenksy. It’s like reading the five-star comments of the Google Play Services app in the Play Store, or something. They repeatedly talk about how big and glorious are Zelensky’s balls? Praising his balls, even though, he is a smaller guy? They praise the bold actions of Zelensky calling him a European hero, imagining his heroic dialogues as in some cheap hollywood movie, etc. To me, it just feels utterly fake? I mean, AI fake.

What do you make of this, guys? Please, remember, it’s not about the conflict itself.

  • Linkerbaan@lemmy.ml
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    Reddit bans anyone not sucking off Zelensky so the echo chamber creates itself. Mods gladly self censor they do not even get paid for it.

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      Sure, but in this case? How “truth” becomes a casualty by putting an army of bots and trolls in a competition to praise Zelensky’s balls? That’s what I think it’s happening. I find it really sad, that they are not praising his strategies, his leadership, or statesmanship.

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        My point is that you don’t know the actual truth. Nor do I. We can’t.

        Bots and paid agents are not a new technique - in ancient times, countries would send spies undercover into enemy territory to sow discord. To rabble rouse and change public opinion. It’s the same now, just the tools have changed. No news source is entirely unbiased, even word of mouth is influenced. The only way you can determine the truth is by seeing it with your own, naked eyes. And even then, your own personal bias can change the context.

        Reddit is a platform where its’ easy to get the ears of a lot of people, so it’s a big target. It’s not Reddit’s fault, and Lemmy would suffer exactly the same if we had the numbers they do.

        What is different now on the world stage, mostly thanks to Trump, is that there’s no longer even any pretence to truth. The most powerful person in the world lies constantly, and his example proves that works. No shame, no integrity, no honesty - just lies and crude manipulation.

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          We can’t know the truth, we can agree on that. But I don’t need to, I’m not a religious person or an old school philosopher. At least, I know I’m not actively trying to manipulate anyone else, that’s good enough for me. That Trump is not helping me know more about the real world is something I’m convinced about because, as you know, he lies as he breathes.

          About Reddit, they are not an innocent party being played. They are collaborators of corrupt, powerful people. I could respect they denouncing these forces, or at least shutting down; whatever they are doing right now, I can’t. Some Lemmy instances are ideologically charged, but that’s fine.

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    That’s not how selfies work, but it’s exactly the type of thing you get when you prompt an image generator for someone taking a selfie. Just saying.

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    You seem to have gotten several decent answers that you’ve dismissed. Do you just wanna talk about balls, OP? Because, I’m something of an expert on them.

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      What are you talking about? You can write your own post, or even create a community, to talk about testicles, so-called bravery, and or all kinds of balls. I’ve read the answers, not dismissed anything.

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    Wow. This forum.

    “Ukraine has corruption so…” (Implied: the US should let Russia invade and annex them)

    “Russia and the US have some details in common if you blur your eyes so they are morally and politically identical”

    “Zelensky sucks”

    “How can anyone know what truth is in this topsy-turvy world?”

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      (Implied: the US should let Russia invade and annex them)

      This type of double standard attitude…
      You didn’t say this of NATO invading Yugoslavia did you?
      Or for that matter Iraq, Afghanistan or Lybia.
      Why not?

      And the difference here is is that Russia isn’t even demanding a full-on regime change for a minority of people unlike the US/NATO.
      Russia just wanted the parts where a majority of people wants an out, to be able to step out, negotiations where Ukraine steps down on it’s aggression against Russian minorities and promises not to use their country for nuclear missiles aimed at Russia in areas where Russian minorities live.
      They’re not accusing Ukraine of having weapons of mass destruction without proof.

      “Russia and the US have some details in common if you blur your eyes so they are morally and politically identical”

      Yes, the US with it’s current concentration camps, legalized slavery in prisons, demanding peace prizes for conducting war against Venezuela among many many countries it invaded, tech oligarchs getting front seats and openly bragging about their political influence, openly bragging about supporting a genocide and calling anyone who protest that genocide peacefully terrorists, with a history of starting out with slave owners on stolen land, “demanding to be free”, which meant not having to pay taxes for tea, then continue with hundreds of genocides and having a civil war over the discussion whether or not slavery was bad, is indeed nowhere near similar to a country that decided to dethrone their monarchs, install socialism, was a thriving success, but with fossil fuels still determining winners and losers in the 19th and 20th century it got corrupt, is now capitalist but slowly moving back leftwards with eyes more and more looking to the socialist China as not only has the fossil fuel world going through massive changes that benefited China, Russia and the Middle East more than the US, but the energy production as a whole is going through a revolution not seen since the industrial revolution that’s pulling every country on the planet on a much more balanced scale.

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      That’s not gonna settle anything. Someone here felt the need to explain to me that praising the balls of someone, even a woman, it’s seen as a mean to praise bravery. No need to measure Zelensky’s balls unless, of course, for science.

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    Reddit loves a singular figure to make the focus of an overly simplistic epic bacon mythology, and they’ve already run Teddy Roosevelt and Chuck Norris into the ground

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      Presumably because he borrowed someone else’s for a selfie shot.