Socdem is bad because capitalism etc etc I understand that, but I saw some people in here saying that socdem is OBJECTIVELY the moderate branch of fascism, which I don’t really understand, because most socdems I know just want their basic welfare system, but are far from nationalism, advocating for genocide etc

I know it’s still bad but for example in spain I feel there’s a big difference between the francoist spain and the socdem wannabe spain, for the better

So please explain, and feel free to call out any brainworms that I might (probably) have shown in here

This could also just be a very funny line, like the “unlimited genocide on the first world” thing, idk

  • TrippyFocus@lemmy.mlEnglish
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    2 days ago

    Expanding on what the other commenters have said -

    Ultimately when the status quo is threatened it’s been shown multiple times throughout history that even though SocDems may desire a somewhat more equal society their actions have pretty much always been against communists fighting for actual change (SPD and Luxembourg, etc.).

    They see themselves as allies of capitalism at the end of the day so once push comes to shove they cant be counted as allies. That doesn’t mean we can’t work with them in very specific instances or try to educate them into becoming communists (think a lot of communists started out as SocDems at some point) but we need to keep in mind that as organizations/parties they aren’t allies and will not protect us from the more brutal wings of fascism.

    Edit:

    Another way to think about it is SocDems will support capital until the end since they still think it can be reformed(otherwise they wouldn’t be SocDems), and since capitalism will always decay into Fascism that’s why they’re the moderate wing of Fascism.