My whole point is that I don’t appreciate the creeps who like this sadistic, exploitative sort of stuff, but that whatever complaints I have about them consuming this shit isn’t fractionally as bad or worthwhile to discuss as the problem of it being put up for consumption to begin with.
I think the difference here – once explained – is pretty easy to understand. There’s a huge difference between erotica (etc.) that either recognizes the other as human or just objectifies them in a way that is unconcerned with their view, versus actively reveling in their suffering and subjugation. That’s it.
I think that’s interesting because a lot of people take the opposite position – that people who consume this sort of thing and say it should be banned are hypocrites who can be dismissed – but I agree with you. I’d still think they’re sus, but I’d accept them believing it should be banned and they’re incomparably better than the chanlords who defend it.
My whole point is that I don’t appreciate the creeps who like this sadistic, exploitative sort of stuff, but that whatever complaints I have about them consuming this shit isn’t fractionally as bad or worthwhile to discuss as the problem of it being put up for consumption to begin with.
I think the difference here – once explained – is pretty easy to understand. There’s a huge difference between erotica (etc.) that either recognizes the other as human or just objectifies them in a way that is unconcerned with their view, versus actively reveling in their suffering and subjugation. That’s it.
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I think that’s interesting because a lot of people take the opposite position – that people who consume this sort of thing and say it should be banned are hypocrites who can be dismissed – but I agree with you. I’d still think they’re sus, but I’d accept them believing it should be banned and they’re incomparably better than the chanlords who defend it.
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