It’s now become abundantly obvious Bernie/AOC and their “advice” was the cause of Zohran’s recent slip up concerning “Globalize the Intifada”
He had meetings with those two shortly before his stumble, in hindsight AOC may have tried to pressure him to follow her lead as she was about to make a move concerning Israel, and what a move it was, complete capitulation that blew up in her face
The first thing Zohran did after winning the primary was give a speech before the New York DSA and affirm his socialism; compared to the positive reception he received from DSA and the toxic mess of AOC, it doesn’t take a brilliant politician to figure which direction the winds blowing, Israel is fuckin toxic and Americans right and left are fed up with the cult of zionism even if they don’t particularly care for Palestine
Zohran who has infinitely better political instincts than either Sanders or AOC, has a front row seat to the consequences of surrender, I doubt anyone is gonna splash red paint on Zohran’s door in the near future
It’s interesting that a holocaust with a higher death rate and a higher starvation rate than Auschwitz that is being live-streamed throughout the world 24/7 would be unpopular. You’d think some Democrats would have a focus group or something.
I thought their focus group was those two moderate Zionists in Schumer’s head.
a higher death rate and a higher starvation rate than Auschwitz
You’ve got to post some numbers to back up that up because most counts have well over 50-90% dead at Auschwitz. Are you talking about deaths over time here or what?
https://www.auschwitz.org/en/history/auschwitz-and-shoah/the-number-of-victims/
It took five years. We’re not yet to year 2. I’m talking deaths per day. Estimated death/missing rates forthcoming. My post was vague. “Starvation rate” should be “feeds its prisoners fewer calories per day than Auschwitz.”
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This study of food distribution sites (by an Israeli academic using IDF population estimates) has been passed around as showing 377,000 missing in Gaza.
https://dataverse.harvard.edu/dataset.xhtml?persistentId=doi%3A10.7910%2FDVN%2FQB75LB
Some “debunking” articles note the inexact population count and IDF errors in counting. The best one I saw said the number is “at most” 200,000 fewer, which would make it 177,000 Gazans missing. A French tv station went this route. I thought “well, I don’t care anymore since it’s only 177,000 people.”
Here’s some recent deaths information.
https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(25)00812-8/fulltext
This is all pretty inexact. We’ll find out after it’s over. I’m hoping Israel doesn’t get the 5 years to show us their commitment.
Even the debunkers have it at “half the rate of Auschwitz”. Oh gee I guess its not a real genocide then.
has been passed around as showing 377,000 missing in Gaza.
This is since 2023 if I’m not mistaken
aoc is only toxic on social media and, even then, only on particular spaces within platforms that don’t shape narratives. see .world’s progressive politics community and see how heavily downvoted all posts critical of aoc are for a perfect example of this.
a huge majority of americans still regard her and bernie as the answer to maga that will save all of them and they will fight anyone who says otherwise, tooth and nail, until their something happens to them that forces them to reconcile with reality; just like maga. (and just like maga who’ve had their spouses, mothers, children, etc. deports; many will continue to insist upon it anyways).
aoc is only toxic on social media
Then she’s toxic in the only place she matters, AOC HAS ZERO pull with the levers of power in the Democratic Party, she is subordinate to them while being despised by the DNC brass and it’s media allies, also Twitter is her worst enemy and unfortunately IT DOES in fact shape narratives in the wider culture and on top of that she’s getting torn apart all over TikTok which…also shapes narratives among average Americans
see .world’s progressive politics community
Why would I care what some dollar store 4chan wannabe subreddit has to say on anything? lmao the incel freaks on lemmy are not indicative of any motion within public consciousness, they’re indicative of the worst of reddit and that’s about it
a huge majority of americans still regard her and bernie as the answer to maga
A majority of Americans don’t regard her or Sanders as anything, because the vast supermajority of Americans are apolitical lotus eaters, 56% of the country actively dislikes her in polling and that’s before this debacle, she’s not Sanders
She is a creature of her base, and after spending six years slowly starving it, she finally pushed it into a corner and she’s getting bit
AOC is just doing what the rank and file fascists want her to do
Do you disagree?
No way on that last paragraph. Not even close to a “huge majority” of anyone.
You’re right it’s completely false, I’m frankly baffled how that lib nonsense above is getting upvoted, nobody bothers checking basic ass facts anymore
Where does
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From a sample size of 1 (my hairdresser), the normies are even souring on AOC and Bernie, AOC especially because being young a lot more is expected and she instead has become just another Dem
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the media keep trying to make a thing about a phrase he never actually uttered, I don’t think sidestepping a trivial issue is in itself a “slip up” unless there’s some evidence that there are flesh and blood people who actually give a shit. I also don’t think it’s clear that he did any of this based on their “advice.”
Yeah exactly this, also he was very careful not to disavow or condemn anyone who does use the phrase and I genuinely appreciate that
