America deserves to be nuked, this is my breaking point, it’s irredeemable.

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          I’ve recently gotten into genealogy mostly as a way to cope with a lot of loss in my family over the last couple of years. It’s fun, but I don’t really feel like I’m related to the people I’m researching. It’s neat to uncover the stories that led to me sitting in my car before work typing this. There are some real weirdos in the hobby. I’m sure that’s true of just about any hobby though. I also recently joined a metal detecting forum and apparently it’s the hobby of MAGA types

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              you have to have enough disposable income to buy a metal detector and enough free time to wander around empty fields using it. and then it really helps to have the confidence to roam around engaging in a goofy hobby that comes with being a cishet white dude in the u.s. i think it’s mostly selection bias and the subtler side effects of systemic racism

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              I really don’t know why. My guess is it’s a Venn diagram of older dudes who are retired and civil war buffs.

              I’m also interested in the civil war and that’s a chuddy hobby. I’m interested from a leftist political perspective. There’s still a decent handful of lost causers in the forums. I once saw an online slap fight where two guys were trying to one up each other by naming increasingly bloody battles in which the other team got owned as some sort of gotcha.

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    This is the problem with heritage BS. If you are not from said region, you are not that region’s ethnicity, because you are not apart of that region’s culture. It’s that fuckin simple.

    If you’re from Scottish ancestry, but born and raised in New York, you’re a fucking New-Yorker. At best, you are a Scottish-American New-Yorker. Your kids will just be New Yorkers, though.

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      Bold take. I think it depends. I’m thinking of examples of ethnic enclaves in the US (e.g. Chinatowns) where the language and (a version of the) culture are laboriously preserved and passed down.

      For most white Americans you’re bang on the money, because racism didn’t corral them into those sorts of communities where they maintained and preserved their community out of a sense of necessity, defiance, etc.

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        Those enclaves are seperate cultures from mainland China’s and over time each culture will likely diverge from one another.

        Cultures are physically manifested through direct interactions between individuals. Because of that, cultures constantly shift and evolve over small increments, and physical space has a large impact on how those shifts occur. Even if concerted effort is put into making the local enclave’s culture the same as mainland China’s, that enclave has surrounding influences from the American culture it’s inserted into, and it will thus shift differently from the mainland somewhat. The lived experience of each culture is also going to be different in various ways.

        Because of this, I think it’s reasonable to state that a person born and raised in New York Chinatown is going to be culturally distinct from a person born and raised in LA Chinatown, and they both would be distinct from a person born and raised in mainland China.

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          On your point, IIRC the modern American English accent is closer to how the language was spoken in England than what the people in Ingerland speak currently

          Edit: I’m wrong and stupid and dumb, the people below me know more about linguistics than I ever will

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            I’m pushing back gently on this as it’s one of those common internet fun facts, which is somewhat true but more complicated.

            Both American English and UK English have gone through a dialectical (get it) change since points of separation.

            Both have different idiosyncrasies left from their shared original early modern English. But both are also still quite different and changed by time and material conditions.

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      You’re absolutely correct and this is something Native Americans bring up all the time to Americans who claim to be Native because of dubious “Cherokee ancestry.”

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    One day Americans will learn culture doesn’t run in your veins, and the people in general will understand that DNA inherently spreads through and across populations over time.

    Given how long Scotland has been inhabited, it’s quite substantially likely that every person on Earth has DNA from native Scots. So there you go, everyone on Earth is now “authentically Scottish”.

    There are a lot of factors, but after about 10,000 years, you are likely either an ancestor of all humans alive, or none.

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    People will say this and them complain that there arent good tacos in Scotland and “no spicy food”.

    Try growing black pepper, cilantro or nutmeg in the cold soggy stony highlands.

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    There’s more than 5x as many people outside of Africa with African ancestry than the population of Africa, so ergo the rest of the world knows African better than Africans.

  • ah yes truly the torchbearers for the highland ways would make the name Ronald MacDonald, of the Clan MacDonald known by every man, woman and child as the Laird of Lairds.

    he looks like every man, woman, and bairn I met in between Skye and Inverness.