Bannon is a fascinating character. He kind of came out of nowhere. He’s from a Navy family in Richmond, Virginia. He served in the Navy. He kind of basically talked his way into Harvard Business School and a job at Goldman Sachs."

After Goldman Sachs, he started his own boutique investment bank Bannon & Company and he was trying to broker a sale of Castle Rock Entertainment, which owned the rights to “Seinfeld.” He was trying to broker a sale between Westinghouse and Ted Turner and when Turner got the table, it turned out he was a little short of cash and rather than let the deal fall apart, Bannon and his partners agreed to take residuals in five television shows, including “Seinfeld,” in exchange for their cash fee. At the time, “Seinfeld” was like in its second or third season, wasn’t a big deal, Bannon thought it was going to be the runt of the litter. As we all know, it became a hit and he has since made about $2.5 dollars.

Bannon had actually spent about a year in the mid-2000s in Hong Kong as the CEO of this bizarre video game company. The company didn’t actually make video games, what it did was try to profit from something called gold-mining, where you have players go in to these games, win gold and special armor and prizes, and then go sell it to gamers in the real world so they can kind of cheat and skip ahead a couple of levels.

This was a serious business, it was actually backed by Goldman Sachs, but it crashed and went bankrupt because the gamers themselves who weren’t cheating became enraged basically that these other people were doing, they put so much pressure on the gaming companies. The gamers organized themselves on these “World of Warcraft” message boards. They put so much pressure on the video game companies, that they decided to basically ban gold-farming, which killed Bannon’s business, but it awakened him to the power of what he called “rootless white males” who spend all their time online. And five years later when Bannon wound up at Breitbart, he resolved to try and attract those people over to Breitbart because he thought they could be radicalized in a kind of populist, nationalist way. And the way that Bannon did that, the bridge between the angry abusive gamers and Breitbart and Pepe was Milo Yiannopoulous, who Bannon discovered and hired to be Breitbart’s tech editor.