I’m talking about people like Vaush, Adam Something, even Elon Musk. Hell, even people like George Orwell claimed to be socialist so it’s not a new thing. They’re not “Marxist but not Leninist”, or anarcho socialists/communists or whatever, but people who don’t even come close to being any sort of leftist at all!

It’s not like socialism is a very glamorous thing to be in the West, or ever was. The average Westerner either thinks socialism is even worse than fascism, or thinks fascism is a type of socialism. Those two are generally for people like and don’t like fascism respectively. It’s definitely not like being an athlete or being in a band or something where you stand to actually impress the general populus if you lie about it.

So I genuinely don’t understand this: if you’re a Westerner, why would you pick socialism as part of an already fake character you’re casting yourself as? What favours is it doing for you?

Like, I’m a Westerner (at least, I live and grew up in the West, not born there and not white tho), and I’m genuinely a socialist (Marxist-Leninist). And I do the opposite to these fake socialists: I keep that identity on the down low in public places IRL, because I’m worried I might actually get persecuted for it (physically attacked, probably not unless I’m in a really far right crowd, I’m mainly worried about things like job prospects). I definitely don’t do things like broadcast that identity to people who know me IRL (most probably think I’m Sanders-esque socdem at best), and especially not to random people I come across on the street. I genuinely can’t imagine anyone in the West getting brownie points for being a socialist, so why wear that hat unless you actually believe in socialism?

  • I can’t give a one-size-fits-all answer, but for each one in part, I think it might suffice:

    • Vaush: grifter, only cares about the money, his goal isn’t to spread correct information, it’s to misinform his audience, to keep them tied to his channel
    • Adam Something (also an addendum to Vaush): like most “reformed fascists”, Adam has chosen the wholesome social democrat persona to try to make his fascistic ideals more palatable
    • Elon Musk: seeks to distort the meaning of the term, claiming that socialists don’t support unions; obviously he doesn’t give that much of a shit about this persona, since he adopts it and drops it quickly
    • George Orwell: from what I know he actually was a member of some socialist organizations, but ultimately was little more than an idealist who had no issues betraying his comrades for some government cash