• Damarcusart [he/him, comrade/them]@hexbear.netEnglish
    33·
    10 days ago

    I’m guessing a lot of the rewrites involve shoving in random pop culture references and probably focus testing things to be as safe and bland as possible, wouldn’t want your audience to experience an emotion or have a thought while your movie is playing after all, they should just laugh at the epic lol random scene obviously trying to become a meme.

  • Robert_Kennedy_Jr [xe/xem, xey/xem]@hexbear.netEnglish
    31·
    10 days ago

    Marvel fans have already declared it a tour de force of cinema, when beloved character new Captain America says “Hulk, go smash that guy.” and before unseen character but much suspected appearance of NFL Superpro takes to the big screen, leading to commendations from comic and football fans alike. Industry leaks have also confirmed that fan favorite, the frog Throg, will have a considerable role in the film, with Marvel already planning a long line of merchandise so real Marvel-heads can show their love. Hope you got space on your Funko shelf for Throg!

    Edit: Fuck I was out Funko’d

      • BakerBagel@midwest.socialEnglish
        15·
        10 days ago

        Looking around it seems like this is true. It seems like the movie is just going ro be endless cameos and no actual plot

        • anarchoilluminati [comrade/them]@hexbear.netEnglish
          15·
          10 days ago

          I know it’s pretentious but I do now feel justified looking down on people who like this shit.

          Yes, I realize some great artistic films began shooting without a script and just made it up as they went along but this is not that.

          • thethirdgracchi [he/him, they/them]@hexbear.netEnglish
            5·
            9 days ago

            Yeah, there’s a very large difference between actors on set, alongside some writers and production staff vibing out the plot of Casablanca in the context of the studio system where they churn out polished movies very quickly (and note they didn’t have a finished script so they just shot mostly in sequential order as they finished the script, but they did finish the script by the time they had finished filming). This is soulless corporate slop where the ending (aka the final third Big Battle with Lots of People to Save the Day) is already known and they’re trying to come up with some contrived reason to get to the ending, and therefore will do that and then bring the actors back to say flat lines of dialogue in front of green screen to pad the movie in between the big set pieces. Completely difference context than Casablanca or even Star Wars, where the entire movie was “filmed” and “complete” but only actually came together in a reasonably cohesive plot in editing.

  • MarxusMaximus [comrade/them]@hexbear.netEnglish
    25·
    10 days ago

    This makes perfect sense when you realize they already know the film is gonna end with a big cool battle scene shot entirely on green screen. That battle will feature every single marvel character so they can just get those cameos out of the way. Just film each one saying a one-liner, running and punching something. After you’ve done that, you can write the film and then start shooting the actual story which will involve a handful of characters.

  • axont [she/her, comrade/them]@hexbear.netEnglish
    15·
    9 days ago

    I think it’s actually pretty normal for movies to start filming or get close to finishing without a complete script. Hayao Miyazaki famously doesn’t write dialogue until the movie is already partially animated from storyboards. Francis Ford Coppola also sometimes wouldn’t write dialogue and would have the actors improvise on set. Other movies I can think of that didn’t have a script while filming: Jaws, Jurassic Park 3, Casablanca, at least a few of the Alien movies, one of the Hellraisers, most of the Star Wars films if Lucas was involved. With Star Wars in particular it seems like the movie’s actual plot isn’t figured out until editing.

    But in those cases I think it’s creative or production related decisions. In Marvel’s case I can fully believe they have no idea what they’re doing or why. It’s just a vehicle to sell things or make something to go on Disney+.

  • Red_sun_in_the_sky [any]@hexbear.netEnglish
    14·
    10 days ago

    Most of avengers movies were largely cgi set pieces while the real shooting was pretty meagre considering they wanted a yearly pump dump scheme. There was always heaps post production edits and animations. As opposed to an actual setpiece or shooting whatever.

  • LangleyDominos [none/use name]@hexbear.netEnglish
    13·
    10 days ago

    Their “innovation” was having a dozen individual character movies and then big team-up movies. It worked so well that everyone stopped caring about the individual character movies and just want the team-ups. But they can’t afford to do team-ups for everything because actors. So they skimp on writers and production value. ILM did Iron Man and the original Avengers (I think). But ILM is very expensive. By now it’s vertical integration and I think they have a very cheap, in-house solution that handles the heavy lifting and outsources pieces of production. But they’re trapped by their success and can only make money by doing team movies. With dwindling theater attendance, there’s no way they can actually make money off this model forever. They’re also probably pretty eager to drop the existing actors as those will be the highest salaries. Their hopes for Young Avengers seems dashed by the Disney+ Shows and Antman 2. The next best thing is to do a switcheroo with actors new to the franchise (cheaper) and the old staples. That’s kinda what this seems to be turning into. These two movies are going to be “We can’t afford Downey Jr and the Chrises anymore, you’re going to have to live with Disney + characters for a little while.”

    Probably within the next 10 years we will see Disney trying to sell Marvel.