When did he call assange a fascist, he mostly ever spoke about how shouldn’t be jailed. I tried to look into it. Mostly I found some old jackson hinkle thread on twitter with some clip. Even there he called online followers of the issue tag onto it but they themselves hang out with weird fascists. He was talking about people like jimmy dore there I guess.
But beyond that I couldn’t find anything about him calling assange a worthless fascist.
It’s as you described; he called Assange supporters people who hang out with weird fascists. I may have put some words in his mouth, but I still don’t like the take.
The person he was responding to just asked him to speak about Assange. If I ask someone out of the blue for their opinion about Marx and they tell me to shut up and go hang out with weirdos, I would interpret them as anti-Marxist.
Assange deserves full support—more support than “he shouldn’t be in prison” IMO.
Yeah that’s the clip I’m clip I’m talking about. Its from December 2021 and was from that Hinkle thread. I found the vod it was someone badgering that he isn’t yet covering the trail early in the stream as he was talking about some other news. It was some twitter back and forth between dore, hasan and glenn. So chatters enter the stream while he starts the stream to talk about that tweet thread even referencing the tweet. Hence his response. He does talk about the trail in stream just not very early.
He was speaking about people like jimmy dore or Glenn greenwald hang out with fascists who support same people who target assange.
Even the account of the tweet here is a ACP guy. Here’s mr revolutionary blackout saying antisemitic stuff in the guise of being pro palestine. CW: Antisemitism
So yeah hasan wasn’t wrong about what he said there.
Hasan hasn’t been against assange nor did he change his tune. Him calling people like dore who latch to opportunity and pal around fascists isn’t weird. If that’s your takeaway then fine. Hasan does support the guy and wikileaks.
Somehow you added Marx there. I don’t see how covering news about assange or comments on media figures is the same as being anti Marx.
Also you didn’t put words in his mouth, you made it up.
I didn’t mean you endorse him. I meant that dude is type of person hasan was referring to. Latching onto to a movement whether free assange or free Palestine to launder their fascist views.
Here’s the original thread, its a stitch clip in a thread by jackson hinkle. Just cause everyone in that thread support assange it doesn’t change that most of em now and then were fascist terfs. Pointing it isn’t a dig at assange.
Rev blackout reps them a lot don’t know if he joined them. He did bunch of interviews with them and other nazis. He reps their local chapters online and defends them very heavily.
The whole thing is so old now I’m guessing he definitely contracted TYT brainworms while it was happening and never managed to change. If you go back far enough being pro-Assange wasn’t ever a consensus, I think it was only after his health etc got realy rough for him that his image changed.
He has caused more embarrassment and shame for the US empire than perhaps anyone else in the past two decades. For that he’s suffered the most extreme and coordinated persecution and character assassination. He’s never done anything wrong that I’m aware of. The sexual assault case against him turned out to be just as fabricated as the allegations made at our old Hexbear admin.
Off topic, but I recently learned that Hasan considers Assange to be a worthless fascist.Edit: Mea culpa
Hasan prefers fascists who get things done, like AOC, settler sanders, and that new fetterman troop
When did he call assange a fascist, he mostly ever spoke about how shouldn’t be jailed. I tried to look into it. Mostly I found some old jackson hinkle thread on twitter with some clip. Even there he called online followers of the issue tag onto it but they themselves hang out with weird fascists. He was talking about people like jimmy dore there I guess.
But beyond that I couldn’t find anything about him calling assange a worthless fascist.
It’s as you described; he called Assange supporters people who hang out with weird fascists. I may have put some words in his mouth, but I still don’t like the take.
https://xcancel.com/SocialistMMA/status/1960769619620454784
The person he was responding to just asked him to speak about Assange. If I ask someone out of the blue for their opinion about Marx and they tell me to shut up and go hang out with weirdos, I would interpret them as anti-Marxist.
Assange deserves full support—more support than “he shouldn’t be in prison” IMO.
Yeah that’s the clip I’m clip I’m talking about. Its from December 2021 and was from that Hinkle thread. I found the vod it was someone badgering that he isn’t yet covering the trail early in the stream as he was talking about some other news. It was some twitter back and forth between dore, hasan and glenn. So chatters enter the stream while he starts the stream to talk about that tweet thread even referencing the tweet. Hence his response. He does talk about the trail in stream just not very early.
He was speaking about people like jimmy dore or Glenn greenwald hang out with fascists who support same people who target assange.
Even the account of the tweet here is a ACP guy. Here’s mr revolutionary blackout saying antisemitic stuff in the guise of being pro palestine. CW: Antisemitism
So yeah hasan wasn’t wrong about what he said there.
Hasan hasn’t been against assange nor did he change his tune. Him calling people like dore who latch to opportunity and pal around fascists isn’t weird. If that’s your takeaway then fine. Hasan does support the guy and wikileaks.
Somehow you added Marx there. I don’t see how covering news about assange or comments on media figures is the same as being anti Marx.
Also you didn’t put words in his mouth, you made it up.
I have seen that guy’s terrible antisemitic rant, actually. I don’t endorse him. He was the only source for the video that I could find.
Is he connected to the ACP, or does he just talk like them?
I didn’t mean you endorse him. I meant that dude is type of person hasan was referring to. Latching onto to a movement whether free assange or free Palestine to launder their fascist views.
Here’s the original thread, its a stitch clip in a thread by jackson hinkle. Just cause everyone in that thread support assange it doesn’t change that most of em now and then were fascist terfs. Pointing it isn’t a dig at assange.
Rev blackout reps them a lot don’t know if he joined them. He did bunch of interviews with them and other nazis. He reps their local chapters online and defends them very heavily.
That’s what I was curious to know, thank you.
Its all cool
All right; I’m sorry, comrade. Apparently there was a lot of contextual drama I was unaware of.
I wasn’t trying to call him anti-Marxist, it was just an analogy.
No its fine. I don’t really give a shit about most of online minutiae cause its grating. I only bothered to look cause its gotten beyond substantive.
I see a lot being said without a looking further in most threads. I wanted to clarify.
I got the analogy. Its just that it doesn’t fit. Unless you think saying something about broader followers is a blow towards the figure themselves.
Anyway hasan didn’t overnight shift on assange nor was he against him. He’s had chelsea manning on a bunch and they both discussed those issues.
The whole thing is so old now I’m guessing he definitely contracted TYT brainworms while it was happening and never managed to change. If you go back far enough being pro-Assange wasn’t ever a consensus, I think it was only after his health etc got realy rough for him that his image changed.
Assange is a litmus test to separate left-liberals from anti-imperialists.
Honestly, I still don’t have much of a take on assanage at this point. Not everyone has taken the time to learn the facts on that topic.
He has caused more embarrassment and shame for the US empire than perhaps anyone else in the past two decades. For that he’s suffered the most extreme and coordinated persecution and character assassination. He’s never done anything wrong that I’m aware of. The sexual assault case against him turned out to be just as fabricated as the allegations made at our old Hexbear admin.