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☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmy.ml to Technology@lemmy.mlEnglish · 9 days ago

China Reportedly Advances to 5nm AI Chips as Domestic Firms Tape Out Two New Solutions For Model Training & AI PC Workloads

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China Reportedly Advances to 5nm AI Chips as Domestic Firms Tape Out Two New Solutions For Model Training & AI PC Workloads

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☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmy.ml to Technology@lemmy.mlEnglish · 9 days ago
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China is reportedly advancing towards 5nm AI GPUs, as a new report claims that domestic firms are set to tape out new chips.
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    I’ve been following this story for 5 years. There’s lots of hopey articles like this over that time. SMEE was supposed to release a 28-nm DUV machine last year in 2023, then 2024 summer, then 2024 December. To date no release. Most of these innovations by thr Chinese are academic discoveries that will take years further to productionize. Generally if the Chinese say they will do something new-technology-wise next year, it will happen 2-5 years after when they say it will.

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      I find that generally we tend to see tech progress in China outpace predictions. For example, nobody expected China to start producing 7 and 5nm chips by now, nobody thought Huawei clusters would be able to compete with Nvidia, etc. Of course, doing new things is always tricky, and 2-5 years certainly sounds plausible to me.

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        They’re producing these 7 nm and 5 nm chips on ASML machines they bought or smuggled into the country. The problem is they can’t fix them on warranty if they break and they can’t figure out how to reverse engineer them yet. I’m hopefully but I’m realistic.

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          They’re not doing that, they’re using an alternative approach to EUV

          • https://lilys.ai/notes/754616
          • https://www.gizmochina.com/2025/04/24/china-quietly-cracks-5nm-without-euv/
          • https://drrobertcastellano.substack.com/p/how-china-is-reaching-5nm-without

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