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Hasan doesn’t live in Russia and doesn’t have a platform in Russian
Many would argue that the idea of Russia intervening in 2014 is naive and ignores the material realities of Russia’s economic and military situation at the time.
Well they’re stupid, considering there was no western built-up Ukrainian military that could challenge the Russian military, Putin didn’t rescue Donbass from Nazi attention for eight wars because he believed the promises of the fuckin Germans about peace, THAT’S naive and ignores material realities, watching an army being swelled by western arms for eight years while trusting the Germans
And maybe, if maintaining a principled anti-imperialist position results in you being banned, then maybe you should not be on that platform.
WHY? What’s the point of a “principled” position if you don’t have a platform to leverage that position, the irony is you are arguing for self-censorship by throwing away a massive platform because you disagree with 1/10 of his takes
You will lose a part of it but those who stay will be all the more dedicated
The point is NOT to create a dedicated CULT, the point is to reach out to normies and changes their goddamn mind about socialism, please develop a sense of strategy, we want an army not a fuckin bookclub
And if that means calibrating a take that may violate the policies of a massive platform, then so be it, the normies will find YOUR take when they dig deeper, but they wouldn’t have dug if not for people like Hasan easing them in
the irony is you are arguing for self-censorship by throwing away a massive platform because you disagree with 1/10 of his takes
And if that means calibrating a take that may violate the policies of a massive platform, then so be it
And when the TOS of that platform change to further restrict anti-imperialist views? You just go along for fear of losing that platform. And you justify it by saying that you are only giving up one tenth of your principles. And then you give up another tenth. And another. And every time it’s ok because it’s only a small part.
There is obviously an inherent problem with remaining on bourgeois controlled platforms in general. Leftists and anti-imperialists need to stop falling into this trap that says it’s preferable to self-censor and remain on the mainstream platforms than move to alternative ones and try to grow those instead.
The more you grow your audience on the mainstream platforms the more you will feel compelled to do whatever it takes to stay there. It’s a gambler’s fallacy. You have become too invested and your material interest too tied into this brand and this space you have built to abandon it and start again. So now the bourgeois owners of the platform can force you to bend to more and more of their whims.
But even if you do stay on big corporate platforms, you can still do much better than Twitch. YouTube for instance, as i said, has less strict TOS. Only he probably wouldn’t be making the same astronomical sums of money there that he is on Twitch. I will never understand why his fans are so parasocially attached to him that they can’t see how problematic this is.
The point is NOT to create a dedicated CULT, the point is to reach out to normies and changes their goddamn mind about socialism
The point is to grow the audience on a less censorious platform. The point is to educate people correctly, not to perpetuate imperialist narratives. There is no use having a million people listening to you if you can’t advocate for a genuine socialist and anti-imperialist position, if you can only say what your bourgeois masters will allow you to say.
please develop a sense of strategy, we want an army not a fuckin bookclub
The notion that a Twitch chat is an army is absurd to the point of delusion. At least a bookclub would be achievable. Most people just go to his streams for entertainment.
You seem to think that he is converting all these liberals to socialists and communists, but all he is doing is turning them into edgy socdems. Maybe some go further but it is not thanks to him.
And i wouldn’t even mind it that much if at least people were honest about it rather than pretending he is more radical than he really is. If he just stuck to pro-Palestine advocacy i would not be saying anything. When it becomes problematic is when you start to abuse the credibility that you have built on Palestine just to repeat imperialist propaganda about another country that is actively fighting against fascism and imperialism.
Hasan doesn’t live in Russia and doesn’t have a platform in Russian
Well they’re stupid, considering there was no western built-up Ukrainian military that could challenge the Russian military, Putin didn’t rescue Donbass from Nazi attention for eight wars because he believed the promises of the fuckin Germans about peace, THAT’S naive and ignores material realities, watching an army being swelled by western arms for eight years while trusting the Germans
WHY? What’s the point of a “principled” position if you don’t have a platform to leverage that position, the irony is you are arguing for self-censorship by throwing away a massive platform because you disagree with 1/10 of his takes
The point is NOT to create a dedicated CULT, the point is to reach out to normies and changes their goddamn mind about socialism, please develop a sense of strategy, we want an army not a fuckin bookclub
And if that means calibrating a take that may violate the policies of a massive platform, then so be it, the normies will find YOUR take when they dig deeper, but they wouldn’t have dug if not for people like Hasan easing them in
And when the TOS of that platform change to further restrict anti-imperialist views? You just go along for fear of losing that platform. And you justify it by saying that you are only giving up one tenth of your principles. And then you give up another tenth. And another. And every time it’s ok because it’s only a small part.
There is obviously an inherent problem with remaining on bourgeois controlled platforms in general. Leftists and anti-imperialists need to stop falling into this trap that says it’s preferable to self-censor and remain on the mainstream platforms than move to alternative ones and try to grow those instead.
The more you grow your audience on the mainstream platforms the more you will feel compelled to do whatever it takes to stay there. It’s a gambler’s fallacy. You have become too invested and your material interest too tied into this brand and this space you have built to abandon it and start again. So now the bourgeois owners of the platform can force you to bend to more and more of their whims.
But even if you do stay on big corporate platforms, you can still do much better than Twitch. YouTube for instance, as i said, has less strict TOS. Only he probably wouldn’t be making the same astronomical sums of money there that he is on Twitch. I will never understand why his fans are so parasocially attached to him that they can’t see how problematic this is.
The point is to grow the audience on a less censorious platform. The point is to educate people correctly, not to perpetuate imperialist narratives. There is no use having a million people listening to you if you can’t advocate for a genuine socialist and anti-imperialist position, if you can only say what your bourgeois masters will allow you to say.
The notion that a Twitch chat is an army is absurd to the point of delusion. At least a bookclub would be achievable. Most people just go to his streams for entertainment.
You seem to think that he is converting all these liberals to socialists and communists, but all he is doing is turning them into edgy socdems. Maybe some go further but it is not thanks to him.
And i wouldn’t even mind it that much if at least people were honest about it rather than pretending he is more radical than he really is. If he just stuck to pro-Palestine advocacy i would not be saying anything. When it becomes problematic is when you start to abuse the credibility that you have built on Palestine just to repeat imperialist propaganda about another country that is actively fighting against fascism and imperialism.