• CyborgMarx [any, any]@hexbear.net
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    1 day ago

    The Bella Ciao meme is a song on the GROYPER WAR playlist, that’s what tipped off 4chan and made them panic and start making fun of Nick Fuentes fans

    Also what leftist is so leftistly and murderously obsessed with Kirk, yet is happy making homophobic jokes and referencing furry memes popular among nazi gooners?

    He’s not a leftist because the government and media would be in the middle of a witchhunt for any popular leftist media figure he followed and providing the logs proving he followed them

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      22 hours ago

      Bella Ciao is also, and better known as, an antifascist song. To link him to groypers, simply because they have a song in a playlist, is uhhhhh… Pretty out there.

      And I’m not pointing fingers at anyone with this, but leftists CONSTANTLY make gay jokes. I see it all the time, and I’ve noticed because, it made/makes me feel weird.

      Do I believe he’s a leftist though? No, but I think you can see that these arguments fall flat.

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        The “Groyper War” was directed against Charlie Kirk, hell of a coincidence an obscure anti-fascist song that groypers were using as a meme just happened to be referenced by a online brained shooter from a conservative MAGA family

        And I’m sorry but I don’t know what 22 year old leftists you’re hanging out with, but the GenZ left does not make gay jokes like that, they’d consider it homophobic, then there’s the furry meme groypers have been using all year

        Like can we be for real, are the dots seriously not that obvious or is the millennial left having a generation wide boomer moment?

        No, but I think you can see that these arguments fall flat.

        Well it hasn’t fallen flat for 4chan, who’ve been making fun of Nick Fuentes fans for the last three days now

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        21 hours ago

        Bella Ciao is also, and better known as, an antifascist song. To link him to groypers, simply because they have a song in a playlist, is uhhhhh… Pretty out there.

        a 22 year old black pilled gamer american from mormonsville utah is much more likely to have been introduced to bella ciao through a groyper war playlist than through some kind of historical research. a good high school in the us isn’t talking about bella ciao at all let alone what they teach in utah.

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        22 hours ago

        And I’m not pointing fingers at anyone with this, but leftists CONSTANTLY make gay jokes. I see it all the time, and I’ve noticed because, it made/makes me feel weird.

        At least in my circles, the gay jokes are different in way that’s extremely important: being gay is fun and cool and a flex, not a denegration.

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          22 hours ago

          True, and good point. But I don’t think “if you read this you’re gay LOL” is exactly denigration either. I guess without his motive or history, it’s hard to say. For instance, I was watching a trans streamer over the weekend who made a similar joke. I guess that’s the catch, whether it’s ingroup or outgroup, right?

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            21 hours ago

            I definitely read that as a denegration, like it’s supposed to be a gotcha: you shouldn’t want to be gay, but now you read this and it’s too late, you’re gay, gottem.

            Even if it’s all “in-group” there can still be internalized homophobia and transphobia (I still catch myself with it too), so I wouldn’t consider gay jokes to be automatically okay just because it’s from someone LGBTQ+. The context and audience are extremely important.

            Tyler knew his audience was law enforcement, which is traditionally homophobic, so I read it as being a try at edgy ragebait.