• mickey [he/him]@hexbear.net
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    20 hours ago

    I can’t speak to Bella Ciao being coopted by the right, I don’t think the shooter was a groyper, but I do think that speculating on it being used that way is plausible when it was being discussed a couple days ago. I base that on a parallel thing where I’ve seen a lot of far right people presumably in the US latching on to Irish rebel music. Either with conservative keyboard warriors leaving bellicose comments on youtube or with rightwing content creators using song clips in their videos. So there are lefty songs that get picked up by fash or just filter into the zeitgeist of apolitical disgost audiences.

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      19 hours ago

      I base that on a parallel thing where I’ve seen a lot of far right people presumably in the US latching on to Irish rebel music.

      I believe that these people who genuinely believe in their hearts that they are rebels are probably redeemable if they get the correct political education. They genuinely want to fight something that is getting them down but are misguided as to what it is. They find in this music that spirit of rebellion against the oppressor but they mislabel the oppressor because of their lack of political education.

      Correct me if I’m wrong but most of these people are dirt poor rednecks.

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        19 hours ago

        I’m thinking specifically of boogaloo, libertarian, AnCap, anti-antifascist, etc. types. There is very much a vibe stateside amerikkka among reactionaries that upholding state violence and resisting social progress is how they rebel against “the system.” So I’m specifically talking about people who are reactionaries first and then choose these tunes because of their meme status.

        On a more general line, sure I agree there are a lot of working-poor proles that see themselves as having a sort of rebellious spirit who could be redirected with the correct political education.