• AssortedBiscuits [they/them]@hexbear.net
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    Sadly, the answer no one wants to hear is the war has to expand until it proves too costly for the US. Not necessarily WWIII, but Ansarallah/Iran has to start targeting oil refineries in the Arab comprador regimes. The Zionist entity is there to promote instability and sectarian divides within WANA and prevent the inevitable political unity of the peoples living there, but too much instability in such a vital geopolitical location is also a bad thing for empire.

    As for the Zionist entity no longer existing, it is basically the 51st US state, so on some level, the Zionist entity can only cease to exist if the US is sufficiently weakened as a nation-state. This requires great powers, which right now would be Russia and China. As the US gets weaker, more states can also become key players in forcing the US’s hand in giving up the Zionist entity.

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      this is sadly the most realistic take here. the west wont stop supporting israel out of nowhere, the israeli state won’t be dissolved for nothing and so on.

      but whenever the war gets too inconvenient for them, that sounds more realistic, yeah. i can see them pulling aid if it diverts enough resources from attacking china or something.

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    Ending the genocide right now? My honest opinion a pause is possible if the US were made to choose between supporting Israel and fighting another war.

    We saw some glimpses of this over their choice between Ukraine and Israel, they were able to support Israel because the pro-Ukraine/Nuland camp etc had already accepted defeat in early 2023 and you know that whole “we’re killing Russians for free this is the best deal ever” quote from an US politician. We saw the US wasn’t willing to give precious modern equipment to Ukraine, none of the real NATO inventory, Ukraine got literaly nothing more modern than garbage cold war museum history cobbled together on the last minute. You can go back and see those Ukrainian offensives shit for yourself.

    So the point then is if a bigger war or threat than Israel appears then I expect the US would tell Israel to hold back, the US can’t deal with a possible war with Iran and Yemen at the same time either.

    But the point then is what is this bigger war, what is this bigger threat? There is none. The US is successfully building up for war with China in a few years time while China themselves are busy patting themselves on a job well done simply saying “US bad” every 2 weeks.

    Israel will continue to get a free reign because Ukraine’s only purpose now is to make EU libs shit themselves and pay more for NATO which btw Trump also already succeeding making EU members will pay 5% of their GDP.

    There could be hope, but it requires actual will to fight the US directly.

    The other option would rely the key Israeli trading partners to actualy grow a backbone, Israel still relies on a few key imports e.g coal. But I’m not sure this would stop it even if it happened.

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    All western support to Israel ends

    China stopping all trade with Israel would help too, but they seemingly don’t care neither tbh.

    Israel ultimately has no way of surviving without full support from international-community-1 international-community-2

    I don’t think this is the best solution, just the “easiest” one. palestine-heart

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    I think the only way for the Palestinian side to win is if the war spirals out of control and begins to involve more states in the Middle East, unfortunately. I don’t think the west will stop providing weapons soon enough to stop the genocide by their own. The USA, Germany, and France are the chief suppliers of munitions, they would have to all stop.

    Something in the Middle East needs to happen to upset the current diplomatic order. Iran needs to be more involved, and so does Iraq and Jordan or Syria. It’s possible that Israel might mess with countries like Egypt or Syria more in a fascistic fury and it could lead to the right combination of events leading to Palestinian victory. At least Palestine has Yemen. But this all looks very bleak deeper-sadness

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      I don’t think any Arab country is doing anything, only Yemen. There are Arab countries that support Israel and send them goods And aid and oil by land, sea and air.

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    Easiest one would be West orders israhell to stop (but I doubt that will happen). Most likely one is West declares war on Iran, iran wins and they force pissrael to end apartheid but still not that likely. Maybe seculars win in India and China manages to convince them to sanction apartheid alongside with them but let’s be honest, it really looks like China doesn’t give a damn. Maybe AnsarAllah manages to inflict enough damage. I don’t know much honestly, all the scenarios I described aren’t that likely

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      Really, no one will do that, because there are Arab countries that are more Zionist than Zionists, and they are intercepting the missiles that come from Yemen towards Israel.

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    I suppose it would have to be a crisis, either a diplomatic one involving several countries (including either Russia or China), or a panic or faltering in some part of the American government.