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Super_Lumalo [he/him]@hexbear.net to Slop.@hexbear.netEnglish · 2 months ago

[CW: 196] They just can't be happy about any short-term wins for communists without screaming "TANKIE, RED FASH, BETRAYER"

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[CW: 196] They just can't be happy about any short-term wins for communists without screaming "TANKIE, RED FASH, BETRAYER"

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Super_Lumalo [he/him]@hexbear.net to Slop.@hexbear.netEnglish · 2 months ago
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  • ∞ 🏳️‍⚧️Edie [it/its, she/her, fae/faer, love/loves, ze/hir, des/pair, none/use name, undecided]@hexbear.net
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    It’s literally just CPUSA winning elections, and they’re immediatly throwing “Stalinist” and “authoritarianism” around.


    ⓘ 𝘛𝘩𝘪𝘴 𝘶𝘴𝘦𝘳 𝘪𝘴 𝘴𝘶𝘴𝘱𝘦𝘤𝘵𝘦𝘥 𝘰𝘧 𝘣𝘦𝘪𝘯𝘨 𝘢 𝘤𝘢𝘵. 𝘗𝘭𝘦𝘢𝘴𝘦 𝘳𝘦𝘱𝘰𝘳𝘵 𝘢𝘯𝘺 𝘴𝘶𝘴𝘱𝘪𝘤𝘪𝘰𝘶𝘴 𝘣𝘦𝘩𝘢𝘷𝘪𝘰𝘳.

    • NinaPasadena [she/her, any]@hexbear.net
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      Did you know that winning an election makes you a red fash tankie stalinist authoritarian? The only way to be a proper communist is always lose to the rightful rulers… The good boy capitalists

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    She won a small town city council seat by beating a landlord CEO and yet you have reddit-logo users crying about Stalinism and the fact that the CPUSA doesn’t follow US foreign policy on China.

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    Contemporary Americans are obsessed with shadowboxing “Stalinism,” whether it’s fools like the one in the thread who insists any self-identified “communist” or what they call “revcom” wants to gulag gay people or it’s so-called communists who make their whole ideology out of manichean opposition to the Bolshevik Cain such that acknowledging that Stalin doing both good and bad things would make their head explode. It’s tiring.

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    Also, the fucking losers on r/enoughcommiespam are predictably upset, lol.

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      It’s always the really nice elite colleges.

      Almost like their whole worldview is tainted by the luxuries of their world.

      Marx himself lived of hiss [sic] rich friend Engels, so it’s baked into the system! Remember, communizm [sic] ends when they run out of other people’s money!

      Another bourgeoisie [sic] in proletariat face

      Oh look, it’s this again.

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        Marx himself lived of hiss [sic] rich friend Engels

        waow-based

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        I’m sure you know, but it’s worth noting for others that Marx lived a lot of his life in a bad financial situation because a radical communist like him could hardly get a professorship and the newspapers that he worked for kept getting shut down (usually for reasons beyond his control having to do with criticizing monarchs or something) and he was run out of like three different countries. He still nonetheless worked as a journalist for papers from Cologne to New York throughout his life.

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          IIRC he also tried unionizing a bunch of places after he got home to Germany from the Franco-Prussian War where he was a war correspondent. His goal was to start a revolution in Germany, mirroring the one in France. Since strikes and unions were illegal at the time, Marx was eventually recognized by employers as an instigator. He then got blacklisted by every industry in the country, which is why he left.

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        Hiss,I say! Hiss!

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      Man I’ve never seen that subreddit thank God. I just looked a bit and I’ve never seen such a lack of critical thinking.

      Also, they have a stickied post saying the “far right isn’t allowed” but have reposts of “yeet”, a well known far right twitter user. Also, they seem openly Zionist of course

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  • ShimmeringKoi [comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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    Authoritarianism

    Just drop the intellectual pretense and call it Badguyism, you’re 12 after all

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    okay tbf there’s a lot of people who are happy about it and some people fighting each other, the libs vs leftists type, but yeah… there’s a lot more of anti-communist sentiment that what I would like in a type of community such as 196

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    Calling CPUSA stalinists… Tell me you know nothing about leftists without telling me you know nothing about leftists.

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    She has a better head on her shoulders than I did at that age (and also currently).

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    Varoufakis was so incredibly, massively correct about it being a bad thing for the left when the dems pushed Trump out last time.

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    The average tankie cannot fathom the idea of critical support. Like babies whining for their carrots to be puréed before they eat them.

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    Is “campism” the new word that just applies a general slander to communists without further explanation?

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      Yes, specifically it is usually used to slander anti-imperialists.

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      blame the trots, they would call people campists. according to the argument, the communists they disagree with are simply all-in for the anti-first world America bad camp, with them as the enlightened centrists.

      now it is unironically used by people (who are campists for the first world themselves) as a synonym for ‘tankie’

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    God damn I’m so tired

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