Okay so banger insight I got from here:

material conditions reign supreme as the foundation of any meaningful program or political convo. This type of analysis cuts laserlike through vast clouds of fluffy, worthless, marketplace of ideas grift style vvvvibes-based “idealistic” baloney.

However.

Vibes, also, are a thing. Often enough vibes become material conditions. People fight, work, organize, sacrifice and die for Vibes. Non material elements can rally support around a material cause.

What are good ways to think about the relationship between material conditions and… idealism, pure “politics”, lofty rhetoric, untethered wishful thinking… vibes. I’m hoping some well-read comrade will bless us with thought or maybe a reading rec

I love you all lea-finger-guns

  • Orbital [none/use name]@hexbear.netOPEnglish
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    1 month ago

    Some smokin hot replies in this thread, very grateful

    Saying “vibes” was a bit sloppy. It’s on my mind because a lot of chud/lib rhetoric is hooked on a feeling. (many lefties aren’t structurally different.) Something close to vibes is essential to these ideologies. The superstructure as I understand it is very diverse just like the base, things like science and art don’t follow the same rules as vapid influencer style “discourse” or ignorant MSM thinkpieces

    Also I talk to libs, chuds and other fools a lot so I’m real interested in translating back and forth