If the Uyghurs mostly stayed in Xinjiang, it was because they were forcibly confined there. But when in fact a great many Uyghurs moved for work across the country, this was evidence of a labor trafficking conspiracy
Beat me to it.
Ok, but like, what if Uyghurs are working in factories across China? So? Seriously, so what? A factory job is a damn good job. And Uyghurs are one of the (many) people groups in China, so yeah, they probably have jobs. Fucking shocker. That would be like saying American Indians are working in factories. Some probably are, so what?
All of the pictures in the article are just people working normal factory jobs for average pay or being celebrated and given themed clothes when leaving Xinjiang to work in the factories. There’s a video of people walking through crowds with the themed hats and one of them clearly smiles and waves when they notice the camera. Somehow this is evil and not just people traveling together for a business program.
Imagine if every Western business retreat was characterized with atrocity propaganda because all your tote bags looked the same at the mini golf course.
one of them clearly smiles and waves when they notice the camera.
Clearly the old communist brain washing devices are still in operation.
My favorite part is that thanks to China’s rail network it’s entirely reasonable and even expected for someone to take on a job working away from home, because they can just supercommute via bullet train and come home on the weekends to see their families.
Very true. Current project I go to Gansu mining area often and it is only a four hour train.
This really exemplifies and focuses the point being made in “Masses, Elites, and Rebels”.
It is this maintenance of persona.
To challenge that fantasy, to identify it as nothing more than that, is to threaten to send them back to whatever their lives were like before they latched onto this desperate alternative.
It makes me think of all the instances of liberals, even in my own personal life, rejecting clear evidence about a given topic. If someone hasn’t build a persona that would be shattered by this evidence, there is minimal push back. However, with a persona threatened by evidence, that’s when they dig in.
I think this explains the projection as well. Since it places them back on the offensive, giving them opportunity to spin more yarn for you to “debunk”.
Its easier to spit the most twisted experiences you can imagine about China then seek the truth, because you believe in democracy, and you think you know what it is. To admit that the things you’ve been told are lies, places you back to a position of not knowing what democracy is.
It’s easier to be pro Israel because you are a defender of the marginalized, who rejects hate, and racism. The positions are clear and backed by the state. You maintain your persona and risk nothing. To admit that its all a farce means you have to admit your indifference to the last 70+ years of occupation. You have to accept your racist views, and shatter the illusion that you care about the marginalized.
This maintenance scales all the way down to interpersonal relationships, to group affiliations, to regionalities. Its all in service of the maintenance of persona. The alternative is to show your true self, to reveal how much you’ll lie and deceive to maintain your persona, how little you care, how much you prefere the status quo instead of progress. How much you enjoy stagnation of the self instead of growth.
Red sails will stay relevant as it is for at least the next 50 years. Inshallah it will eventually be less relevant soon through progress but that seems naive to hope
The implication the article is trying to make is that they are being forcibly trafficked by the see see pee.
Oh I get that, but I don’t see how the video of the people comes to that conclusion
You’re not thinking like a China Watcher that’s the problem. See these people doing a normal everyday thing? It’s because they know there is a camera there and are forced to act normal or else they’ll be disappeared! As soon as the camera was switched off, a group of jackbooted thug cops appeared and beat the shit of out those guys just for existing. That one guy who waved? That was a coded message! If you slow down his wave, you’d see it is actually a morse code SOS signal, indicating that he is in horrible danger and terrified for his life, but forced to “act natural” or else!
Chinese citizens move from one part of China to a different part of China for employment opportunities. What will we inscrutable celestials do next?
这些.world鬼佬全部都是白痴
I love how if you’ve even been paying a passing amount of attention to this atrocity propaganda campaign over the past several years you will have seen a thousand instances of sensationalized claims and accusations that are inevitably walked back a few months later.
But there’s just something about the cognitive dissonance of the average liberal who is desperate for a justified conflict with a scary foreign adversary that they are allowed to feel “uncomplicated, nationalistic/patriotic pride” about that makes them keep saying, “sure, you may have fooled me the first 1487 times, but I’m feeling really good about lucky number 1488!”
Meanwhile there is an actual evil Nazi regime committing a genocide that we could stop with a phone call, but…
They’re being walked back less and less, nowadays they just say something and shut up about it a week later, then it becomes “common knowledge” (
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When the west forces workers to travel from Poland or Romania to the UK for work it’s the freeee market at its best.
When China does it with a state company, it’s worthy of horror articles that amount to “The workers are paid, but the conditions they face are unclear” which is a big nothingburger, yes that’s a literal quote from the article.
The workers are paid, but at what cost?
Market rate depending on experience.
You can hollow out a city’s industry so few people can actually live there and work, so they have to move to find work… but that’s just the FREE MARKET BBY!
Uyghurs working in factories throughout China has been explicit ans intentional national policy in China for nearly a decade as part of their economic modernization campaign in Xinjiang. Aa the article notes this also includes others like Kazakhs, as they also live in Xinjiang. This fact, implies to be salacious, is not nefarious and already well-known.
The other parts of the article intendes to imply or state problems, like forced labor, rely on completely unstated claims referencing “experts” and “human rights advocates, Marco Rubio, and claiming workers migrating follows the " pattern” of forced labor. What pattern? They don’t deign to say.
They have literally nothing to go on and so they are instead trying to stretch implicatioms and guesswork (making shit up) as much as they can.
Keep in mind that the groups that worked on tgis article have all carriwd water for the current Zionist genocide and uncritically publish IDF statements as if they are fact.
Don’t click on the thread, psychic damage.
I think it ia sort of entertaining, how easy they are to fool. Most gullible, incurious, and arrogant people on the planet.
I mean it is really elementas of both. They are shoulder deep in propaganda and do not have the capacity to free themselves of it most of the time. We are all brought up in propaganda, from schooling to entertainment media to news to politicians to bosses to family and friends. Most people are just internalizing what they pick up along the way and that has not been confronted out of them, like a major life event that forced them to see the bullshit. The same socialization that teaches the propaganda also teaches how to approach discourse: always project knowlegability, it is ties to one’s ego, and reading the New York Times is basically the height of intellectual discovery, it makes you a news head. Engaging critically with literally anything is not th3 default, it mostly happens ad hoc as a way to defend and entrench one’s biases. They are socialized to believe they are on a team and that criticism comes from the other team. Only simple binary good guys vs. bad guys thinking allowed, there are only two teams, and so they lap up things like horseshoe theory because they need everyone to be at a pole away from themselves ane bad in the same ways, and secretly on the same bad guy team.
This way of thinking is harmful. It is why such people are the most prolific cheering audience for genocide, via a lens that allows them to pretend they aren’t doing so. And it can have elements of malice, like how they respond to disagreement in bad faith. But even that is taught and many are not really cognizant of it. They are reacting like an upset toddler because it is more about ego than anything else. Upset toddlers lie and pout and lash out. But they aren’t calculating, scheming, or particularly knowledgeable about geopolitics or media critical.
They’re not the same as the bloodless ghouls that know better and lie and mislead for their often genocidal projects. They are the common person, completely incoherent, frequently defensive, and absolutely unprepared to do anything valuable politically on purpose.
So much of this article describes my parents perfectly, but I just can’t agree with the conclusion that they know that they are choosing to believe comforting lies. That would imply a capability for introspection that I’ve never seen them demonstrate.
The “arrogant” part is so spot on. I know so many Americans who are absolutely clueless about how the world works and yet are absolutely convinced their opinions are correct.
One example of this I immediately thought of was Americans responding to criticism of their overseas military bases with “OH YEAH WELL I BET JAPAN’S GLAD TO HAVE OUR BASE THERE” which only reveals that they’ve never heard of the Anpo protests.
"two things can be bad at once. the US might be doing bad things right now, but that doesn’t mean china isn’t evil. we need to criticize both.
now if you’ll excuse me, i’m off to vote for a genocider while posting state department warmongering propaganda"
Me, when I can’t find work in my hometown and have to move across the country
“Chinese Workers Are Moved to Factories Across China to Supply Global Brands”
ha! see! they are being forced!
Thousands of young Americans forced into Californian reeducation camps where they are forced to smoke weed and read feminism
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