• MizuTama [he/him, any]@hexbear.net
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    23 days ago

    I’m surprised there isn’t a more democratic centralist Dem Soc org

    Missed the fun debacle like 2 months ago where NYCDSA tried this and enforcing a support Zohran no matter what line that was overwhelming rejected by its membership.

    Maybe we should just turn the DSA into the US version of the International

    In my head its essentially taking the role of the reactionary trade union in context of the evaporation unions with undermined US labor power and its complete non-existence in swathes of the country and the fact with the membership numbers it has and broad access and associations with different organizations and activists it can serve as an agitational space for MLs while also giving people experience working in democratic bodies and organizing. Now too much of this is in electoral work imo, but I digress. I’ve seen people call it or allude to it being a party and that take is kinda delusion if they’ve taken a minute looking at its current internal operations. If DSA is a party as is, the word has no meaning.

    I do see either a split of the DSA happening at some point from either its left or right depending on how the national level power struggle goes, or a full folding into the dems in a particular lose scenario for the DSA’s left, however even that would server as either a split or fracturing as it would also likely hemorrhage most of those people, the difference being at that point they fracture into a bunch of micro-orgs instead of a coherent org/party.