• Xerxos@lemmy.ml
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    1 month ago

    See, moderate Democrats are just right wing. Republicans are closer to fascist. Your whole political spectrum has been wandering to the right for quite a while now. “Radical left” Democrats would be centrist anywhere else.

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      1 month ago

      Nha man the US has politic spectrum, it has only right or left, democrate or replublic. People are either for Trump or against Trump. /s

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    I think this also has to do with how “we” refuse to speak of left and right as actual sets of ideals as opposed to relative positions. As far as voters go they see themselves as centrist because they aren’t far right fascists so they’re to the “left” of them, but they don’t agree with “the left” so they’re to the “right” of them. Their actual beliefs though would make them conservatives and so right wingers…

    As far as politicians, they just want to get elected and the Bidens of the world know they can’t win as Republicans especially today.

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      People who call themselves centrist, are uneducated in regards to political terms. They don’t know what they are talking about, but assume they do and they never go out of their way to educate themselves on these matters.

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        Or they know exactly, but are straight up lying. Either way it means talking to those people is a waste of time.

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      but they don’t agree with know anything about “the left” so they’re to the “right” of them.

      FTFY.

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    Leftists can pat themselves on the back for knowing this all they want… but the truth of the matter is that even leftists themselves have largely fallen for the propagandistic myth that liberalism is (somehow) “less” right-wing than it’s fascist co-conspirators.

    Just the introductory Wikipedia page on liberalism makes it perfectly clear that liberalism fetishises the very “ideals” that all but ensure the power and privilege of the already-wealthy at the expense of everyone and everything else (you know… the power and privilege that fascism exists to protect through the use of unbridled state violence) - yet I do not see leftists coming up with any bright ideas to fight liberalism in the same way that leftists oppose fascism.

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      1 month ago

      Leftists come up with bright ideas to fight capitalist liberals since thousands of years.

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          Yes, thousands of years is a big overexaggeration. But I don’t understand why you would say, that you don’t see leftists come up with ideas to fight liberalism. People who call themselves left and people who call themselves liberal have been fighting long before the fascist party was founded.

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            that you don’t see leftists come up with ideas to fight liberalism

            Where are these ideas?

            People who call themselves left and people who call themselves liberal have been fighting long before the fascist party was founded.

            Where do you see this?

  • Lka1988@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    Who the fuck cares? Biden isn’t in office anymore. Judge by what he accomplished instead of pretending you all know him personally.

    Right now we have a literal fascist in office. Something tells me that’s a bigger issue. We can play the blame game all day, but unfortunately what’s done is done and the time to take action is yesterday.