We’re starting off with a very short one for the first week. This text was published in 1915, two years before the October revolution, and is sadly still highly relevant in the imperial core.

This reading group is meant to educate, and people from any instances federated with Lemmygrad are welcome. Any comments not engaging in good faith will be removed (don’t respond to hostile comments, just report them).

You can post questions or share your thoughts at any time. We’ll be moving on to a new text next week, but this thread won’t be locked.

You can read the text here.

  • Cowbee [he/they]@lemmy.ml
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    To help people that are unable to think for themselves, the Berne resolution (Sotsial-Demokrat No. 40) made it clear, that in all imperialist countries the proletariat must now desire the defeat of its own government.

    Gotta love Lenin, he never forgets to restate his points in clear and simple terms, and he’s always snarky too

    • 小莱卡@lemmygrad.ml
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      9 months ago

      Its fairly straightforward for imperialist countries, e.g. US, European states. But it gets incredibly complex when it’s about ascendant capitalist countries like Russia.

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        9 months ago

        it gets incredibly complex when it’s about ascendant capitalist countries like Russia.

        It really doesn’t though. Russia was a backwards agrarian state barely on its way out of feudalism when Lenin wrote this, he even explicitly acknowledges it right in this text:

        Russia, a most backward country, where an immediate socialist revolution is impossible.

        If Lenin’s thesis applied to WW1 Russia, it surely applies to SMO Russia.

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          9 months ago

          Both war contexts are very different. WW1 was inherently imperialist, imperialist countries fighting for a better share of the world while the current war is about stopping NATO expansion in Ukraine, NATO being the alliance of imperialist countries, Russia is found in a progressive side in this time.

          Russia is simply not a part of the imperial core, like nor is Iran, another locally reactionary state. I cannot find myself supporting a movement, regardless of their politics, that weakens these states that one way or another are found themselves fighting against US hegemony, because that would make me end up in the pro-US side.

          I think Domenico Losurdo “Class Struggle” does a really good job explaining the nuances of class struggle and the different forms it can take from small to global perspectives. Locally progressive struggles can find themselves helping a globally reactionary struggle while locally reactionary struggles can find themselves helping a globally progressive struggle.

          • Red_Scare [he/him]@lemmygrad.ml
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            9 months ago

            This is lesser evilism. Sure, Russia has legitimate security concerns about NATO expansion, this doesn’t make this war a “progressive struggle” though. Ultimately it is just as much about control over Ukrainian resources and Russia simply acts like any capitalist power would. Russia does support some progressive struggles around the world but Ukraine isn’t it.