I started to notice a intense automation and Artificial Intelligence Investments from companies and that made me wonder, what would happen or what should be done with the people who can’t be trained for a new job and can’t use his current skills to to get a job.

How would he live or what would he do in life? More importantly, what should be done with him to make him useful or at least neutral rather than being a negative on the society?

  • I'm_All_NEET:3@lemmy.ml
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    6 days ago

    You could do what I plan on doing which is getting married to a rich guy and becoming a house wife.

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    9 days ago

    More importantly, what should be done with him to make him useful or at least neutral rather than being a negative on the society?

    They are part of the society. Stop pitting the individual against the society and vice versa, if a society can’t support its members it needs to be abolished.

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    9 days ago

    Since this question is asking “should”, I think it’s fine to answer with a rational but radical answer:

    • People can be useful to society even if they aren’t employed in our current economies. Retired people may not have jobs, but often still perform productive or necessary labor, like maintenance, artistic contributions, child care, historical preservation. When someone isn’t working for money, they still often voluntarily work for society!
    • I believe that, generally speaking, it’s within society’s best interest, even just from an economic standpoint, to support these people even if they aren’t formally employable.
    • Looking at most capitalist countries, overproduction is normal. Usable property remains empty just because an owner wants more money for their investment. Perfectly edible food is systematically thrown in bins rather than given to hungry people for free, or rejected by stores because it doesn’t look perfect (like an oddly shaped carrot). Clothes are thrown out once they’re “unfashionable”.

    We have all the resources needed to support everyone, and it wouldn’t take much extra effort from a determined government to get those resources where they need to go. There’s no reason why unemployed people should be left to starve and freeze simply because they don’t have enough income. In our society, the scarcity of basic needs is artificial (‘artificial scarcity’).

    Automation is seen as a bad thing, a threat, because workers in society are threatened with starvation if they don’t have the income needed for food, shelter, medicine and perhaps basic luxuries. But if our political economy were first-and-foremost based around society’s needs instead of profiting, and therefore we used our modern technology to automate the production of these basic needs and distribute them, then suddenly automation would mean free time and easier labor!

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    8 days ago

    Those who can work, should. Those who cannot should be taken care of by those who can. Comprehensive training programs and free education helps both, as well as subsized or free necessities.

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    Done by who? Done how? Tf does this mean

    There are plenty of societies that have strong state-backed training and education programs. The AI narrative is majority a smokescreen for financialization and downsizing of firms and privatizarion of the state

    Just like with the blockchain, China’s been the first to implement a version with an actual use - not financial speculation and buying drugs, and a more power and resource efficient version - of overhyped tech financial bubble buzzword technologies, because they don’t judge its utility differently than any other technology. They don’t have these religious financial cults around AI

    They will likely be the only nation other than close regional SEA allies to implement AI in governance effectively instead of using it to somehow make servers using UI from 2014 worse + more insecure & strengthening the Tesla/Palantir/Anduril investor pitch " The Evil Privatized Government Has Anointed Us Chief Devourer of the State Social Services/Tech/Green Energy Budget" where everyone can stuff the 1 trillion dollars the fed prints daily for banks

    First worlders who want to pull themselves back out of the hole somehow should stop focusing singlemindedly on minimum wage struggle and public debt, and start worrying about land reform, access to hours + employment, and public housing.

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    Unfortunately the trajectory we’re on in the US the answer will be something along the lines of “criminalizing homelessness” and then sending them off to for profit prisons that take public funding.

    The usual: public subsided private “industry” for the wealthy, and “rugged individualism” for the people.

    What we should do is recognize the impact AI has on society and tax accordingly as to allow a minimal quality of life for all people and if you want more than that then you try to find work that pays better if it’s even available. In the somewhat distant future AI combined with robotics will be able to do everything a person can do, but faster and 24/7. If no one gets a paycheck then no one can buy products so the corporations will either recognize that and willingly pay the previously mentioned tax or collapse.

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    In my country we had always had massive unemployment rates.

    People just live with family and keep studying until they can land a job. Plenty of people here hasn’t got a job until their thirties, and rarely in the field the initially thought they’d be working.

    It’s shit living with your parents until you are 35, but it has been the deal here until very recently.

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    9 days ago

    I mean, it’s not really a new problem, although it’s just been ordinary health issues rather than AI.

    Usually disability has been addressed very poorly, though.

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    7 days ago

    We should build an army of them to kill all the porkies who think unemployable people are negatives on society