If Zohran has any sense and is “hiding his power level” even a tiny amount, he needs an armed guard of committed socialists like yesterday to prevent this exact scenario from happening. If deporting him is at all hard for ICE to do without making it into a big public Incident, they’ll have to come up with some other shenanigans unless they want riots in NYC.
Yeah you honestly just need to be able to delay it enough to make it a large scene. I don’t think the residents of New York City will allow ICE to take him. A few million people all focused on making sure your goons can’t kidnap one specific figure would make things very difficult
he needs an armed guard of committed socialists like yesterday to prevent this exact scenario from happening.
i dont really disagree but who though? FRSO seems like an org that would be willing, and maybe even able with how secretive they seem to be, but they’re tiny from what i can tell and i’d be very surprised if they want to bring down the state on their head for a DSA member. PSL might have the size (no clue what their new york chapter is like though), but i have seen nothing to suggest that they have any sort of armed wing/training and seem very unwilling to do so, at least from all the protests i’ve seen. CPUSA are the biggest fraud sheepdog of the democrats of all time, and if DSA (and especially NY DSA) ever provide armed socialists to anyone anywhere i might have a heart attack and die on the spot in shock. who’s even left? IMT/RevCom? too busy selling news papers. SRA? it honestly isnt a real org and is pretty small anyways. only other org i can think of is john brown gun club tbh lol
Dual power, Zohran has to build it himself tbh. He’s the new mayor in all but name, if he wants to enact his agenda he’s going to need to take on the biggest gang that actually runs NYC, which is the NYPD. He’s gonna need goons for that. If he’s got any brains and is actually serious about enacting an even remotely socialist agenda he needs armed goons like a supervillain, and they’ve gotta be loyal to him. I don’t think you’d be able to get an org to do this.
If armed socialists in the United States got into a full confrontation with ICE I think you’d know because this site would probably be shut down by the FBI lol
If Zohran has any sense and is “hiding his power level” even a tiny amount, he needs an armed guard of committed socialists like yesterday to prevent this exact scenario from happening. If deporting him is at all hard for ICE to do without making it into a big public Incident, they’ll have to come up with some other shenanigans unless they want riots in NYC.
Yeah you honestly just need to be able to delay it enough to make it a large scene. I don’t think the residents of New York City will allow ICE to take him. A few million people all focused on making sure your goons can’t kidnap one specific figure would make things very difficult
People who know people who would know have confirmed to me that he does have a security detail.
But can that security detail be bought? If you’re a high profile socialist, you need committed socialists as security.
From allied universal or from personal allies?
It would be pretty fucking embarrassing if they trusted Allied instead of training some long-time trusted comrades.
i dont really disagree but who though? FRSO seems like an org that would be willing, and maybe even able with how secretive they seem to be, but they’re tiny from what i can tell and i’d be very surprised if they want to bring down the state on their head for a DSA member. PSL might have the size (no clue what their new york chapter is like though), but i have seen nothing to suggest that they have any sort of armed wing/training and seem very unwilling to do so, at least from all the protests i’ve seen. CPUSA are the biggest fraud sheepdog of the democrats of all time, and if DSA (and especially NY DSA) ever provide armed socialists to anyone anywhere i might have a heart attack and die on the spot in shock. who’s even left? IMT/RevCom? too busy selling news papers. SRA? it honestly isnt a real org and is pretty small anyways. only other org i can think of is john brown gun club tbh lol
Dual power, Zohran has to build it himself tbh. He’s the new mayor in all but name, if he wants to enact his agenda he’s going to need to take on the biggest gang that actually runs NYC, which is the NYPD. He’s gonna need goons for that. If he’s got any brains and is actually serious about enacting an even remotely socialist agenda he needs armed goons like a supervillain, and they’ve gotta be loyal to him. I don’t think you’d be able to get an org to do this.
i mean in this scenario they deport him before he even gets to run for general election he doesnt have time to do this
I mean he’s got time to build an ideologically committed security detail like right now. None of that is dependent on him being mayor.
Yesterday?
it’s just a turn of phrase, like he needs it so badly it should have been done yesterday instead of today
OH, given the state of things I thought armed SRA members confronted ICE or something and I missed it lol.
lol if armed socialists got into a full on confrontation with ice the news mega would have easily over a 1k comments, you’ll know
If armed socialists in the United States got into a full confrontation with ICE I think you’d know because this site would probably be shut down by the FBI lol
hexbear servers arent hosted in the US im pretty sure, and it would take awhile to get the dns/ip address blocked even for the FBI
I hope so!