Oh shit yeah, I forgot about all that bullshit the CIA made up.
Wait a second, THOUGHT CRIMES??? THOUGH CRIMES??? Do you think ‘Thought Crimes’ were a real thing that existed outside of the anticommunist screed ‘1984’?
Anyways, on to your next point, oh, it’s the most unreasonable fucking false equivalency I’ve ever seen in my life. The UK is not and has never been a democracy, it is a dictatorship of the bourgeoisie that has occasional political pageantry where it pretends the people have any power at all, just like every single nation that is not communist. Fighting the Nazis is the literal only time the British Empire did a single good thing, and their problem with German fascism was the German part, not the fascism part. And then they immediately started drawing up ‘Operation Unthinkable’, the plan to resume an invasion of the USSR using mainly Wehrmacht soldiers, a plan I assume you support wholeheartedly as it would have destroyed what was obviously the most evil nation in the world at the time, the one whose soldiers liberated Auschwitz.
That’s true and good, but even then, in the process they also invented the concept of the concentration camp. I mean, rounding up civilians into cramped, unsanitary conditions with little food so that they all die of disease is a pretty obvious idea, but they systematized and came up with the euphemism for it.
it is a dictatorship of the bourgeoisie that has occasional political pageantry where it pretends the people have any power at all, just like every single nation that is not communist
FTFY
Wait a second, THOUGHT CRIMES??? THOUGH CRIMES??? Do you think ‘Thought Crimes’ were a real thing that existed outside of the anticommunist screed ‘1984’?
… They said while “AES“ China is massively oppressing it’s LGBT populace from expressing LGBT ideas.
But I know the typical delusions of campists, any criticism about “communist” nations is “CIA lies”, (until it’s irrefutably proven, at which point it becomes an “unfortunate mistake”) much like any criticism of fascist nations is “fake news”. Just one of those wacky coincidences.
Chinese people both feel that their country is more democratic, and that democracy is more important, than every other country in the world.
They said while “AES“ China is massively oppressing it’s LGBT populace from expressing LGBT ideas.
What the fuck are you talking about?? When you make a claim you have to back it up with evidence. It is obviously much, much safer to be LGBT in China than in most other countries in the world, ESPECIALLY the US - and if you want the most progressive legislation on LGBT rights, womens rights and the rights of children then you have to go to the communist state of Cuba.
Ah, of course, I forgot that protesting against claims that are false is exactly the same as protesting against claims that are true, you’re so balanced and wise. Saying that the Holocaust didn’t happen and saying that Stalin didn’t actually personally eat all of the corn in Ukraine with a giant spoon are exactly morally equivalent. If you would like to provide any evidence for a single one of your “irrefutable claims” I would love to see it.
And US republicans say they believe in freedom above all.
Nonsequitur, of course everyone says they believe in freedom, including you, the difference is whether their actions lead to it, which the Communist Party of China’s have done.
I figured it would be this story, I just wanted to make sure it wasn’t some other phantasm you’d conjured up. Pornography is illegal in China (as it should be). These women were writing erotic novels that crossed the legal boundary into pornography, however that’s judged, and selling them. There is a thriving market for gay erotica that skirts the pornography law, and a thriving scene for ‘pornographic’ novels that aren’t being sold for money, the problem is when you try to secretly sell the latter. As a result, 22 people have been arrested for essentially tax fraud, out of a population of 1,400,000,000.
And why would China be anti-LGBT? Like most of the third world, China has some cultural conservatives with anti-LGBT views, but also like in most of the third world, these were installed by colonizers forcing westernization and Christian morality upon them. China has a long history of LGBT acceptance and even celebration in its pre-modern history, such as the ‘passion of the cut sleeve’ (go look it up). The crucial difference is that unlike in the western world, they don’t have a massive, powerful, fundamentalist religious lobby that can dictate policy and force them back in the wrong direction. The Chinese youth are unsurprisingly more progressive than their elders, so as time goes on attitudes should soften more.
But this brings up another important point: without a state, what are you going to do with all the homophobes? Do you think you could have a peaceful anarchist revolution in the United States and everyone would just stop hating gay and transgender people by themselves? Do you think the reactionaries of the US won’t need to be imprisoned until they can be educated into not hating the gays? Do you think you won’t need a special body of armed men to forcibly suppress the urge to lynch which lives in the heart of a large fraction of USians? What is the anarchist mechanism for actually transforming the world as it is now, into the world we want it to be, without apparently inconveniencing anyone? You can’t answer this of course, because anyone who thinks about it long enough and actually references history becomes a communist.
Nonsequitur, of course everyone says they believe in freedom, including you, the difference is whether their actions lead to it, which the Communist Party of China’s have done.
Yeah, the one party state is clear evidence of a strong democracy. 🤣
I knew there was evidence of this, I was just acting incredulous for cheap rhetorical points because I thought you’re too lazy to link to evidence. Achsually pornography is illegal and furthermore imprisoned people don’t count because blah blah tldr
Thanks tankie for once again showing your entire ass.
Lazy and stupid. You can tell EXACTLY where in their comment you decided to stop reading and it’s before the second sentence in their second (really first) paragraph.
You got suckered into believing capitalist propaganda that made you believe there was a MASSIVE CRACKDOWN ON LGBT SELF EXPRESSION. And you just had it explained to you that story was mutated from the actual reality of China enforcing its ban on for-profit pornography.
Just for passing on such obvious capitalist state propaganda you could easily be called incurious. But holy shit look at the juvenile way you just decided to ignore someone plainly laying out what’s happening behind the english press. You’re just fucking stupid and lazy.
And if you didn’t bait @CascadeOfLight@hexbear.net with that dumb shit “more parties = more democracy” you probably should have gotten the response you deserved (this one).
Are you going to have a single fucking moment of self reflection about how you could be deceived so eagerly into adopting a fascist state’s political line?
Oh, so you care about bourgeoise multiparty elections for control of a state? Which is it, are all states evil or are some actually okay, now that you think about it? Perhaps the ones you live in and have assimilated all the cultural norms of? What a curious coincidence.
Ah yeah, I forgot the anarchist counter to communist arguments, not being able to read.
Here’s some pretty pictures for you to look at - Chinese life expectancy
and Chinese solar panel production
If the human species still exists in a thousand years, it will be thanks to the communists of China
Oh shit yeah, I forgot about all that bullshit the CIA made up.
Wait a second, THOUGHT CRIMES??? THOUGH CRIMES??? Do you think ‘Thought Crimes’ were a real thing that existed outside of the anticommunist screed ‘1984’?
Anyways, on to your next point, oh, it’s the most unreasonable fucking false equivalency I’ve ever seen in my life. The UK is not and has never been a democracy, it is a dictatorship of the bourgeoisie that has occasional political pageantry where it pretends the people have any power at all, just like every single nation that is not communist. Fighting the Nazis is the literal only time the British Empire did a single good thing, and their problem with German fascism was the German part, not the fascism part. And then they immediately started drawing up ‘Operation Unthinkable’, the plan to resume an invasion of the USSR using mainly Wehrmacht soldiers, a plan I assume you support wholeheartedly as it would have destroyed what was obviously the most evil nation in the world at the time, the one whose soldiers liberated Auschwitz.
didnt they fight the boers at one point. would have been much better if they beat the amerikkkans too tbh
That’s true and good, but even then, in the process they also invented the concept of the concentration camp. I mean, rounding up civilians into cramped, unsanitary conditions with little food so that they all die of disease is a pretty obvious idea, but they systematized and came up with the euphemism for it.
FTFY
… They said while “AES“ China is massively oppressing it’s LGBT populace from expressing LGBT ideas.
But I know the typical delusions of campists, any criticism about “communist” nations is “CIA lies”, (until it’s irrefutably proven, at which point it becomes an “unfortunate mistake”) much like any criticism of fascist nations is “fake news”. Just one of those wacky coincidences.
Chinese people both feel that their country is more democratic, and that democracy is more important, than every other country in the world.
What the fuck are you talking about?? When you make a claim you have to back it up with evidence. It is obviously much, much safer to be LGBT in China than in most other countries in the world, ESPECIALLY the US - and if you want the most progressive legislation on LGBT rights, womens rights and the rights of children then you have to go to the communist state of Cuba.
Ah, of course, I forgot that protesting against claims that are false is exactly the same as protesting against claims that are true, you’re so balanced and wise. Saying that the Holocaust didn’t happen and saying that Stalin didn’t actually personally eat all of the corn in Ukraine with a giant spoon are exactly morally equivalent. If you would like to provide any evidence for a single one of your “irrefutable claims” I would love to see it.
And US republicans say they believe in freedom above all.
Just the most recent one of many examples
Nonsequitur, of course everyone says they believe in freedom, including you, the difference is whether their actions lead to it, which the Communist Party of China’s have done.
I figured it would be this story, I just wanted to make sure it wasn’t some other phantasm you’d conjured up. Pornography is illegal in China (as it should be). These women were writing erotic novels that crossed the legal boundary into pornography, however that’s judged, and selling them. There is a thriving market for gay erotica that skirts the pornography law, and a thriving scene for ‘pornographic’ novels that aren’t being sold for money, the problem is when you try to secretly sell the latter. As a result, 22 people have been arrested for essentially tax fraud, out of a population of 1,400,000,000.
And why would China be anti-LGBT? Like most of the third world, China has some cultural conservatives with anti-LGBT views, but also like in most of the third world, these were installed by colonizers forcing westernization and Christian morality upon them. China has a long history of LGBT acceptance and even celebration in its pre-modern history, such as the ‘passion of the cut sleeve’ (go look it up). The crucial difference is that unlike in the western world, they don’t have a massive, powerful, fundamentalist religious lobby that can dictate policy and force them back in the wrong direction. The Chinese youth are unsurprisingly more progressive than their elders, so as time goes on attitudes should soften more.
But this brings up another important point: without a state, what are you going to do with all the homophobes? Do you think you could have a peaceful anarchist revolution in the United States and everyone would just stop hating gay and transgender people by themselves? Do you think the reactionaries of the US won’t need to be imprisoned until they can be educated into not hating the gays? Do you think you won’t need a special body of armed men to forcibly suppress the urge to lynch which lives in the heart of a large fraction of USians? What is the anarchist mechanism for actually transforming the world as it is now, into the world we want it to be, without apparently inconveniencing anyone? You can’t answer this of course, because anyone who thinks about it long enough and actually references history becomes a communist.
Yeah, the one party state is clear evidence of a strong democracy. 🤣
Thanks tankie for once again showing your entire ass.
Lazy and stupid. You can tell EXACTLY where in their comment you decided to stop reading and it’s before the second sentence in their second (really first) paragraph.
You got suckered into believing capitalist propaganda that made you believe there was a MASSIVE CRACKDOWN ON LGBT SELF EXPRESSION. And you just had it explained to you that story was mutated from the actual reality of China enforcing its ban on for-profit pornography.
Just for passing on such obvious capitalist state propaganda you could easily be called incurious. But holy shit look at the juvenile way you just decided to ignore someone plainly laying out what’s happening behind the english press. You’re just fucking stupid and lazy.
And if you didn’t bait @CascadeOfLight@hexbear.net with that dumb shit “more parties = more democracy” you probably should have gotten the response you deserved (this one).
Are you going to have a single fucking moment of self reflection about how you could be deceived so eagerly into adopting a fascist state’s political line?
Oh, so you care about bourgeoise multiparty elections for control of a state? Which is it, are all states evil or are some actually okay, now that you think about it? Perhaps the ones you live in and have assimilated all the cultural norms of? What a curious coincidence.
Ah yeah, I forgot the anarchist counter to communist arguments, not being able to read.
Here’s some pretty pictures for you to look at - Chinese life expectancy
and Chinese solar panel production
If the human species still exists in a thousand years, it will be thanks to the communists of China
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