You wrote that explicitly to shame people from using a rule meant to cool down comment sections, and you wrote that to promote the “left unity” delusion by jumping on the attempted bullying bandwagon, so their assumptions are rational at least.
You wrote that explicitly to shame people from using a rule meant to cool down comment sections,
that’s quite an accusation, I think it’s reasonable to infer insincerity from my words, but shame? I think that’s coming from somewhere else. I was mostly being glib responding to someone calling your post bait.
you wrote that to promote the “left unity” delusion by jumping on the attempted bullying bandwagon, so their assumptions are rational
that’s an awful lot to read into one word. I’m pretty sure I was just making a joke, sorry that it was at your expense but I don’t think that’s bullying.
Follow up question: if that was bullying then what does that say about the people doing red scare smear campaigns based on what server people are on?
Oh, so ridiculing the use of the disengage rule does not have the effect of shaming people from using it?
that’s an awful lot to read into one word.
Context matters. You came to an attempted bullying thread and thought “Oh, I’d better pile on the side defending ML regimes”. As I said, It’s a rational assumption.
I came into a bait thread and made a joke about someone posting a bait thread and then telling pretty much everyone responding to the bait to disengage.
It’s not that I have an issue with the rule, or intended to discourage people from using it, but because posting something incendiary and then dodging earnest responses to the bait with “disengage” is funny.
I am not dodging. As I’ve said many times in this thread, I’m using the disengage rule as a because I don’t want (not that I can’t) to argue in a fucking meme thread, but my autism compels me to, so this is my fucking coping mechanism to avoid wasting all my life rehashing 100-year old theory with 24 different terminally online tankies.
But yeah, it’s easier to say “oh you don’t want to argue for 2 weeks with 2 dozen different online theorists? owned!” and pile on, I get it. I don’t excuse you shaming people from the disengage rule though. be better.
PS: Not bait. This is my own space. Tankies don’t have to come here. I, in fact, don’t want to deal with them. I’m just too fucking tolerant for my own mental good. But apparently even letting toxic people post here in masse is not good enough. Saying I don’t want to argue in a meme thread isn’t good enough. Trying to protect my mental health and time isn’t good enough. Because the objective here is to just stop me from posting these sort of memes in the spirit of “left unity”, so the bullying is the point. And you’re part of that now, congrats.
Follow up question: if that is bullying then what does that say about the people doing the ongoing red scare smear campaign based on what server people are on?
if that is bullying then what does that say about the people doing the ongoing red scare smear campaign based on what server people are on?
I don’t understand why you keep bringing this up? Am I engaging in this myself? I don’t even have hexbear defederated (clearly). This line of questioning has “but what about Hamas?” vibes.
Are you the leader of anarchism that gets to decide who is and isn’t an anarchist? I’ve been trying to find whoever is in charge of the anarchists, it’s an honor to meet you!
Read again. I just said it’s a rational assumption. I didn’t say it’s a valid assumption as I don’t know; just given their visible behaviour, what .ml is and what this thread has become, it would make sense to assume this. Whether it’s actually true is another matter. I’m OK to take Diva’s word for it that she’s an anarchist, but of course her allegiances and actions leave much to be desired by other anarchists like me, so it’s not like I would want to be in the same affinity group or anything.
I’m OK to take Diva’s word for it that she’s an anarchist, but of course her allegiances and actions leave much to be desired by other anarchists like me, so it’s not like I would want to be in the same affinity group or anything.
The feeling is mutual, I prefer to organize with anarchists who are more interested in the work at hand than with policing each other’s opinions.
I don’t police anyone’s opinions? Hell I even allow opinions I consider outright wrong and even toxic to stay up in this very thread . Likewise, all my work is prefigurative and visible for all to see. But apparently I can’t even fucking post an anti-ML meme in peace now for an anarchist crowd and then. Gotta toe that line…
Love the scare quotes, do you do any actual organizing as an anarchist or do you stick to posting?
I have plenty of criticisms of the USSR, I just don’t care to participate in red scare circlejerks and that clearly rubs some people the wrong way.
on the .ml instance who posts like a hex
I’ve been here for years, it was literally my first instance and it was the most annoying Lemmy users constantly whining about hexbear that got me to start digging though their modlog and checking it out in the first place lmao.
Can you actually point to anything she’s done that disqualifies her from being an anarchist? Like, I can show receipts of you going to the right of the US State Department to defend American Imperialist narratives about Taiwan (nice leftism you got there, Chiang Kai-Shek!). Has she done anything specific that is objectionable?
What rules are there on Hexbear that are so anathema to your noble anti-authoritarian ideology? Do you think we have rules against criticizing socialist countries or something like that? We have arguments daily[1] about China not helping their allies enough or not intervening internationally enough. We criticize the actions of socialist states all the time. So what “rules the party leader made”[2] is she supposed to be against on principle? What is it about Hexbear that demands this belligerent attitude of yours?
Red fascists.
A term to distinguish from the people who can wag anti-communism in front of you to gain your uncritical support
quite a conclusion to jump from ‘disengage’ to that, plus I’m an anarchist
It’s so fucking tiring with these people.
That does tend to happen when you step out of your world of alternative facts.
What facts have been presented in this thread that counter ML “alternative facts”? Where are the arguments where the tankies are getting epicly owned?
You wrote that explicitly to shame people from using a rule meant to cool down comment sections, and you wrote that to promote the “left unity” delusion by jumping on the attempted bullying bandwagon, so their assumptions are rational at least.
that’s quite an accusation, I think it’s reasonable to infer insincerity from my words, but shame? I think that’s coming from somewhere else. I was mostly being glib responding to someone calling your post bait.
that’s an awful lot to read into one word. I’m pretty sure I was just making a joke, sorry that it was at your expense but I don’t think that’s bullying.
Follow up question: if that was bullying then what does that say about the people doing red scare smear campaigns based on what server people are on?
Oh, so ridiculing the use of the disengage rule does not have the effect of shaming people from using it?
Context matters. You came to an attempted bullying thread and thought “Oh, I’d better pile on the side defending ML regimes”. As I said, It’s a rational assumption.
I came into a bait thread and made a joke about someone posting a bait thread and then telling pretty much everyone responding to the bait to disengage.
It’s not that I have an issue with the rule, or intended to discourage people from using it, but because posting something incendiary and then dodging earnest responses to the bait with “disengage” is funny.
I am not dodging. As I’ve said many times in this thread, I’m using the disengage rule as a because I don’t want (not that I can’t) to argue in a fucking meme thread, but my autism compels me to, so this is my fucking coping mechanism to avoid wasting all my life rehashing 100-year old theory with 24 different terminally online tankies.
But yeah, it’s easier to say “oh you don’t want to argue for 2 weeks with 2 dozen different online theorists? owned!” and pile on, I get it. I don’t excuse you shaming people from the disengage rule though. be better.
PS: Not bait. This is my own space. Tankies don’t have to come here. I, in fact, don’t want to deal with them. I’m just too fucking tolerant for my own mental good. But apparently even letting toxic people post here in masse is not good enough. Saying I don’t want to argue in a meme thread isn’t good enough. Trying to protect my mental health and time isn’t good enough. Because the objective here is to just stop me from posting these sort of memes in the spirit of “left unity”, so the bullying is the point. And you’re part of that now, congrats.
Follow up question: if that is bullying then what does that say about the people doing the ongoing red scare smear campaign based on what server people are on?
I don’t understand why you keep bringing this up? Am I engaging in this myself? I don’t even have hexbear defederated (clearly). This line of questioning has “but what about Hamas?” vibes.
Are you the leader of anarchism that gets to decide who is and isn’t an anarchist? I’ve been trying to find whoever is in charge of the anarchists, it’s an honor to meet you!
WTF are you on about, mate? I didn’t even challenge their anarchist creds. Reading comprehension these days, I swear…
You’re validating a user who’s calling her a red fascist.
Read again. I just said it’s a rational assumption. I didn’t say it’s a valid assumption as I don’t know; just given their visible behaviour, what .ml is and what this thread has become, it would make sense to assume this. Whether it’s actually true is another matter. I’m OK to take Diva’s word for it that she’s an anarchist, but of course her allegiances and actions leave much to be desired by other anarchists like me, so it’s not like I would want to be in the same affinity group or anything.
The feeling is mutual, I prefer to organize with anarchists who are more interested in the work at hand than with policing each other’s opinions.
I don’t police anyone’s opinions? Hell I even allow opinions I consider outright wrong and even toxic to stay up in this very thread . Likewise, all my work is prefigurative and visible for all to see. But apparently I can’t even fucking post an anti-ML meme in peace now for an anarchist crowd and then. Gotta toe that line…
Soviet simping “anarchist” on the .ml instance who posts like a hexbear, huh. Bold claim, let’s see who’s dumb enough to believe it.
Love the scare quotes, do you do any actual organizing as an anarchist or do you stick to posting?
I have plenty of criticisms of the USSR, I just don’t care to participate in red scare circlejerks and that clearly rubs some people the wrong way.
I’ve been here for years, it was literally my first instance and it was the most annoying Lemmy users constantly whining about hexbear that got me to start digging though their modlog and checking it out in the first place lmao.
Can you actually point to anything she’s done that disqualifies her from being an anarchist? Like, I can show receipts of you going to the right of the US State Department to defend American Imperialist narratives about Taiwan (nice leftism you got there, Chiang Kai-Shek!). Has she done anything specific that is objectionable?
As we all know, anarchists love being on .ml and Hexbear. Why wouldn’t they if they just obeyed the rules the party leader made?
What rules are there on Hexbear that are so anathema to your noble anti-authoritarian ideology? Do you think we have rules against criticizing socialist countries or something like that? We have arguments daily[1] about China not helping their allies enough or not intervening internationally enough. We criticize the actions of socialist states all the time. So what “rules the party leader made”[2] is she supposed to be against on principle? What is it about Hexbear that demands this belligerent attitude of yours?
From today: https://hexbear.net/post/5423450/6303346 ↩︎
Hexbear’s mod team and admin team is entirely made up of very active users so it’s all very democratic, actually ↩︎