• CARCOSA [mirror/your pronouns]@hexbear.netBanned from community
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    Did you report the ableism? Also if you are compelled to make a bait post but don’t want to argue you can ping me and I will kindly use my admin powers to lock the post from the hexbear side allowing you to have a meme echo chamber ❤

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      Just for my own record I’ve started reading the post, I’ve come across you insulting someone’s reading comprehension which is ableist against those with dyslexia, insulting someone’s inability to read the room which is ableist against those with autism.

      Again I’m sorry this has been such a stressful post for you, and I’m more than happy to work with you by using our admin and moderator tools to aid you in curating an online experience that is pleasing and relaxing

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        5 hours ago

        You remind me of DroneRights but somehow more obvious and less clever. I didn’t think that was possible.

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        Ok so you’re just covering up for ableists as well which as much as I expected. But I didn’t expect you to actively trivialize ableism like this so you can make passive aggressive notes.

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          I don’t see any reports of ableism, and I don’t know what you mean about passive aggressive notes? I have difficulty parsing tone over text but if you could be more clear I would appreciate it

          I’m trying to work with you here but you aren’t giving me anything to work with. I tried to read through the 400+ comments but my ADHD is really giving me a hard time with the walls of text.

          On hexbear we focus on a horizontal approach to moderation by empowering community moderators to handle their communities leaving admins to deal with site-wide problems. If you don’t have enough moderators in this community to handle it without causing yourself mental distress then I would suggest you adding more moderators.

          Would you like me to lock this post from hexbear’s side now? Last time I did it I received snark from the db0 mod team so thought that you wanted them left open but now that I know how much stress it is causing you I am reconsidering.

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            I don’t see any reports of ableism,

            Just check the modlogs of this comm for ableism bans.

            I’m trying to work with you here but you aren’t giving me anything to work with

            Because I don’t have any more patience for Hexbear-brand bad faith and manipulation and when I try to interact with y’all in good faith, I instantly regret it.

            But fine, while I don’t think you’re planning to do anything and are just baiting me with good faith again, here’s just one of the comments thread where I explicitly explained my autism coping mechanisms for a hexbear-swarmed thread like this, in good faith. This only led to gaslighting and bad faith assumptions, served with self-righteousness. Once I banned this user, at least 4 other hexbears doubled and tripled down on the same assumptions elsewhere in the thread, continuing to gaslight, goad, and just make out of whole cloth what’s in my head. All of these upvoted by yet more hexbears as well.

            Just in case it’s still not clear:

            • When a large hostile group invades the space of an autistic person and then gaslights them for the coping mechanisms they use to deal with that situation (after they explained it in good faith, no less). That’s ableism.
            • When an autistic person tries to disengage from a stressful situation a group put them in, and that group ridicules that act in order to goad their autistic compulsions to have them continue engaging and end up like a “lolcow” for them, that’s ableism.

            I cannot make this any more clear.

            • CARCOSA [mirror/your pronouns]@hexbear.netBanned from community
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              Unfortunately the modlog is so busy and full of activity I don’t have the time or focus to wade through it at this time but if you could provide more specific examples I’ll talk them out with you.

              Again this is why our standard practice is to defer community level moderation to that community’s moderators. I’ve also told you this many times before but you really should make an alt to post/comment with while reserving this account for admin-level engagement.

              That’s fine you don’t need to interact any more I’ll go ahead and lock this post. Did you not assume bad-faith when you posted the meme in the first place? I would say you and your fellow instance users laughing about the comment section indicates a lack of good-faith.

              It isn’t invading when a post reaches brigading

              I apologize for not locking it sooner, but I still don’t understand how you are being gaslit. It is true you did not disengage in advance, as if you had included your intent to not engage in argument within the post body, locked the post yourself, requested a hexbear admin to lock the post, or changed the community to local only then you would be disengaging in advance as well as exercising your coping mechanisms in a proactive way.

              You are aware of your own compulsions, you are aware of hexbear, you are aware of the impact the post would have and yet you did not do anything until the large amount of hexbear activity began after the post reached the top of the active/all post sort.

              When that started you again did not do anything other than individually disengage from users that presented arguments you weren’t prepared to discuss despite the availability of mod tools that would have coped with your compulsion as well as limited the post’s activity.

              I don’t dispute that it’s your space but I do dispute the claim of ableism because you were not targeted or discriminated against for your condition, another neurodiverse person called you out for using your neurodiversity as a shield when you have ample means by which to proactively protect yourself and yet you choose not to use them so that you could have fun riling up Hexbear.

              You claimed as much regarding your comment about making similar posts about liberals however since .worlders did not come with concrete, evidence based arguments you did not feel the need to use your coping mechanisms.

              ProfesserOwl is not questioning your neurodiversity or your coping mechanisms they are calling you out for excusing your behavior with your neurodiversity.

              Ableism would have been to dismiss your arguements as false due to your neurodiversity, instead the commenters engaged with the content of your post and comments. Not one single hexbear has stated you are inferior for being neurodiverse or requiring coping mechanisms for your compulsions. You were called out for being disingenuous with your intent by appearing to be open to discussion but in reality were just wanting to shitpost.

              Since you were also engaged in heated, hostile, sectarian arguments it is understandable that those who you were arguing with would return such sentiment. The commenters in the post are engaging with the content of the original post as well as the comments, they are not attacking Autism.

              Continuing to engage in self-harming behaviors in the name of neurodiversity does an incredible disservice to neurodivergent people.

              As an admin and moderator requires conducting oneself civilly and with dignity which entails not using one’s condition as a shield from accountability, making excuses based on a diagnosis when the individual is able to control patterns both enables misconduct and compounds marginalization and taking ownership of their conduct if they are mentally, emotionally, and physically able.

              Difficulty regulating certain behaviors may be a condition, but it does not excuse harming others. This post was made with the explicit intent of harming those who do not fit your idea of what a leftist is and what followed was when you received pushback

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                You’re engaging in victim blaming. It’s not my fault for not being proactive in the way you think is the best for myself when you community behaves like like trolls.

                You are aware of your own compulsions, you are aware of hexbear, you are aware of the impact the post would have and yet you did not do anything until the large amount of hexbear activity began after the post reached the top of the active/all post sort.

                Victim blaming

                When that started you again did not do anything other than individually disengage from users that presented arguments you weren’t prepared to discuss despite the availability of mod tools that would have coped with your compulsion as well as limited the post’s activity.

                Victim blaming and gaslighting.

                I don’t dispute that it’s your space but I do dispute the claim of ableism because you were not targeted or discriminated against for your condition, another neurodiverse person called you out for using your neurodiversity as a shield when you have ample means by which to proactively protect yourself and yet you choose not to use them so that you could have fun riling up Hexbear.

                Ableism doesn’t just mean using the R-word. I explained why it was ableism. You now chose to ignore this completely, which means you’re just covering up for ableism and their admin to boot, which just further reinforces why hexbear has an ableism problem, which is supported by the many ND people who have expressed stress interacting inside hexbear, even ND hexbears themselves.

                You claimed as much regarding your comment about making similar posts about liberals however since .worlders did not come with concrete, evidence based arguments you did not feel the need to use your coping mechanisms.

                So. you clearly were more than capable of going through all my comments to find the little tidbits you think support your bad faith interpretations, but supposedly couldn’t do it to find the many places I called out hexbear ableism. That points out the deliberate manipulation you’re engaging in. To answer you question, I disengage with libs just as much.

                ProfesserOwl is not questioning your neurodiversity or your coping mechanisms they are calling you out for excusing your behavior with your neurodiversity.

                You’re lying. They literally gaslit me and said my coping mechanism are actually a coverup for cowardice. I.e. they’re goarding so that I disregard my coping mechanisms and engage in a mentally harming behaviour. You’re now the 6th hexbear doubling down on ableism.

                Continuing to engage in self-harming behaviors in the name of neurodiversity does an incredible disservice to neurodivergent people.

                Victim blaming

                Sorry I will not further engage with ableists and victim blamers, no matter how polite their bad faith and concern trolling arguments are written.