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      We had a chance at a version of it, but we blew it.

      I drank the establishment kool aid at the time and voted no on AV

      It’s honestly one of my biggest life regrets

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        Alternative Vote wasn’t proportional representation though. It’s basically just like having a whole series of head-to-heads under First Past The Post. It didn’t actually solve the fundamental problem which is you end up in a situation where most of the people are unhappy with the result.

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            That’s like saying that being stabbed is better than being shot.

            The problem was it would have shut down any discussion of any other political change since they would just go “oh we already changed it”.

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    We need a political party with an exactly two line manifesto

    1. Introduce Proportional Representation
    2. Call another election as soon as PR gets royal assent

    One of the few benefits of Reform if they do get in is they do support PR. Whether that support will dissolve the second they win under FPTP remains to be seen. The Liberals in Canada pulled that particular stunt after decimating the Conservatives there

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      One of the few benefits of Reform if they do get in is they do support PR. Whether that support will dissolve the second they win under FPTP remains to be seen.

      Nope. They definitely will not move to a proportional representation system. Why the hell would they?

      Proportional representation benefits them when they are not in power because it’s the only way they can get into power, if they somehow manage to find a way into power under first past the post then introducing proportional representation would only dilute their power.

      In any scenario in which they have power they are unlikely to introduce proportional representation, and in any scenario where they support proportional representation, they won’t have enough power to actually implement it.

      Like most things with Reform, it’s all bark and no trousers.

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      Agreed. A single issue party tackling electoral reform. Probably something that Reform, the Lib Dems, the SNP, Greens & Plaid could band together and support. I would have zero faith in Reform actually going through with it though if they did gain a majority.

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      Because he alienated all the independent MPs in Parliament in a disastrous anti-May Deal meeting, where he could have stopped an extreme Brexit and toppled the Government, but as soon as the independents entered the room he refused to talk to them and stormed out in a huff.

      So 10 years ago, no-one would want to work with him. He isn’t a consensus politician.

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      10 years ago he was head of one of the largest political parties in parliament. Throwing that away at that point would have been ludicrous