Okay, I’m glad I’m not the only person put off by this. 50501 and the “No Kings” movement has been rubbing me the wrong way, and being unable to quite describe why had me second guessing myself.

Western history for sure, but I imagine Russia, China, and most of the world will recognize the truth. It just sucks for us stuck living in the empire.

Iirc, didn’t Hitler also say something to the effect that if Germans lost to the USSR, they deserved to be killed wholesale? Fash really do expect total annihilation for one side or the other, and seem to take peace as an opportunity only to try again later. It’s disgusting.

The objective, I believe, is just to make it as grizzly, bloody, and awful as possible, because they have the full backing of Western media. The history books (in the West, anyway) will blame all of it on Russian aggression, and this narrative will be driven into everyone who will listen, in every region they can get their slimy tentacles into.

It’s been their game plan all along, as we all know. From the very beginning they intentionally put artillery next to active schools, hid their soldiers in school buses and ambulances, and did everything in their power to maximize their own civilian death tolls, knowing Western media and audiences would blame Russia for every death that could have been easily avoided. These people are fighting for control of the region to remake it as they see fit, and for all their talk of nationalism and the Ukrainian people, they will gladly sacrifice the entire population if it lets them rule what’s left to be “pure”.

That makes sense.

True. I don’t have any confidence in Trump’s administration as peacemaker, though.

God, reading that was painful. They really do try to spin the narrative in the most obnoxious ways. I’m not holding my breath a peace deal will be made based on how Ukraine and its backers are talking. Feels like more posturing by the West to try and paint Russia as unreasonable for not surrendering unconditionally while winning.