im glad i refused the entire time to do this

Liberals weren’t demanding anything. They were saying, “vote blue no matter who” and, “how dare you criticize Biden, you Trump supporter!” while giving bad faith knee-jerk responses to all pro-Palestinian positions, particularly (1) pivoting to alleged increased antisemitism for which there is virtually no evidence on the left (purely an attempt at deflection) and (2) trying to extract condemnations of Hamas and reframe the narrative as Hamas vs. “Israel” having “a right to defend itself” (mass murder children).

Liberals were doing the exact opposite of demanding anything remotely pro-Palestine. They were defending Israel and criticizing (and oppressing!) pro-Palestinian voices and loudly announcing that they would fight against any electoral consequences for those enabling the genocide.

Isn’t this pretty much what they are asking for now? They still want Hamas to disarm and Palestinians in Gaza to accept PA or something potentially worse

Are they STILL banging the “criticism of Israel is antisemitism” drum?

That rhetoric is foundational to the Zionist project. It will never not be a drum they bang on.

So fucking tired of being called antisemitic for suggesting Israel should stop doing genocide.

- “tell me about it.”

The Labour government here has started doing it after 3 days!

Their party line to defend against the massive, substantial criticism of the so called Online Safety Bill they’re using to surveil and censor the internet here is now “We cannot return to the dark days of violent exploitation & serious online danger. Why are you siding with pedophiles?”

After 3 days.

iirc 9 members of the Biden admin went on a talk show in Israhell and proudly said the admin never pressured Israhell for a ceasefire

Still reminds me of the guy on reddit I wasted my time arguing with who insisted that the two state solution should be pursued; I kept telling him that it’s not something the government actually wants to happen and they kept insisting that it should remain on the table. It’s not on the table damn it; it’s the dangling light off an anglerfish

Worked so hard on it he almost feel asleep during his debate!

I think it’s because the government and media is still trying to figure out social media like they did with cable TV. They learned their lesson during Vietnam when pictures and videos of kids getting blown up or VC POWs getting executed by US troops was being aired on the 6 o’clock news every night. It made Americans lose their taste for war.

So when the US invaded Iraq and Afghanistan, they were much more controlling over what was being broadcasted. A picture of about a dozen US coffins was a scandal. Yet, you won’t find much in the way of combat footage like you did with Vietnam. Americans were still doing horrendous shit (as seen with Abu Ghraib or Navy SEALs mutilating bodies). It was just tightly kept quiet. Actual footage like kids running from a napalm attack or troops carrying bodies on stretchers back to helicopters? There’s no documentation.

Fast forward to now. They could control where journalists went during Iraq and Afghanistan, physically. They can’t control civilians live streaming a hospital getting double tapped by Israeli aircraft. They have no idea what to do when Israelis upload pictures of themselves to Instagram committing war crimes. They can’t shut down the internet without it causing problems for themselves.

At this point, the evidence of genocide has grown to where it’s undeniable. There’s too many photos. Too many videos. Too many posts by Israelis bragging about killing people. There’s a mountain of recordings with Netanyahu talking about wiping Palestinians off the face of the earth. Rather than trying to contain it (which would fail), they are trying to change the narrative to “We were always against Israel and its genocide of the Palestinians.” It’s hit critical mass and America’s enemies are gaining credibility by condemning the zionist entity.

It’s because famine experts are saying that it’s likely reached the point of no return.

Starvation builds and spreads over time. It kills the old, young, and ill first. But it’s not just a lack of food that kills you. At a certain point your body starts shutting down, your organs damage themselves, and just suddenly being given food and water isn’t enough to reverse the process or the damage. It takes serious medical intervention.

Western governments and media are trying to register their faux-concern now, when they know it’s likely already too late for most people trying to survive but before the world sees the scale of the death.

For them there’s the further complication that a) actual footage of famine, never mind deliberate famine as extermination, isn’t that common and hasn’t been normalised in the ways that killing via warfare has to their populations and b) their very direct, very cut and dry role in defunding, banning, and smearing the likes of UNRWA are a legal liability under international law that they can’t handwave away like ‘defensive weapons’ etc

That’s incredibly bleak, I know, but that’s my honest read having worked for aid groups and hearing what those people are talking about. I’m not suggesting that there is zero hope or that people give up on Gaza though. We have a moral duty as people to keep fighting for each and every person. And even if we lose that fight, to make sure the people responsible are exposed for what they are.

I think they’re realising that we’ve reached the point where what comes next is a Gaza with no one left alive. Their claims that this is just a war with some collateral damage might work now, while they can keep the official death count frozen, but once the killing ends and the settlers start moving into a completely baron wasteland with no one left alive, they will completely lose any plausible deniability if they don’t pivot now.

Thar be a dang cheeto in the kkkrackkker hou$$e