• CliffordBigRedDog [he/him]@hexbear.net
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    15 days ago

    I dont understand this sudden about face

    Whats so different with the situation now and whats been happening for the past 2 years

    I think anyone with a brain would know this is entirely cynical but why didnt they do this earlier if they’re gonna do it now

    • Belly_Beanis [he/him]@hexbear.net
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      I think it’s because the government and media is still trying to figure out social media like they did with cable TV. They learned their lesson during Vietnam when pictures and videos of kids getting blown up or VC POWs getting executed by US troops was being aired on the 6 o’clock news every night. It made Americans lose their taste for war.

      So when the US invaded Iraq and Afghanistan, they were much more controlling over what was being broadcasted. A picture of about a dozen US coffins was a scandal. Yet, you won’t find much in the way of combat footage like you did with Vietnam. Americans were still doing horrendous shit (as seen with Abu Ghraib or Navy SEALs mutilating bodies). It was just tightly kept quiet. Actual footage like kids running from a napalm attack or troops carrying bodies on stretchers back to helicopters? There’s no documentation.

      Fast forward to now. They could control where journalists went during Iraq and Afghanistan, physically. They can’t control civilians live streaming a hospital getting double tapped by Israeli aircraft. They have no idea what to do when Israelis upload pictures of themselves to Instagram committing war crimes. They can’t shut down the internet without it causing problems for themselves.

      At this point, the evidence of genocide has grown to where it’s undeniable. There’s too many photos. Too many videos. Too many posts by Israelis bragging about killing people. There’s a mountain of recordings with Netanyahu talking about wiping Palestinians off the face of the earth. Rather than trying to contain it (which would fail), they are trying to change the narrative to “We were always against Israel and its genocide of the Palestinians.” It’s hit critical mass and America’s enemies are gaining credibility by condemning the zionist entity.

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      It’s because famine experts are saying that it’s likely reached the point of no return.

      Starvation builds and spreads over time. It kills the old, young, and ill first. But it’s not just a lack of food that kills you. At a certain point your body starts shutting down, your organs damage themselves, and just suddenly being given food and water isn’t enough to reverse the process or the damage. It takes serious medical intervention.

      Western governments and media are trying to register their faux-concern now, when they know it’s likely already too late for most people trying to survive but before the world sees the scale of the death.

      For them there’s the further complication that a) actual footage of famine, never mind deliberate famine as extermination, isn’t that common and hasn’t been normalised in the ways that killing via warfare has to their populations and b) their very direct, very cut and dry role in defunding, banning, and smearing the likes of UNRWA are a legal liability under international law that they can’t handwave away like ‘defensive weapons’ etc

      That’s incredibly bleak, I know, but that’s my honest read having worked for aid groups and hearing what those people are talking about. I’m not suggesting that there is zero hope or that people give up on Gaza though. We have a moral duty as people to keep fighting for each and every person. And even if we lose that fight, to make sure the people responsible are exposed for what they are.

    • brain_in_a_box [he/him]@hexbear.net
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      I think they’re realising that we’ve reached the point where what comes next is a Gaza with no one left alive. Their claims that this is just a war with some collateral damage might work now, while they can keep the official death count frozen, but once the killing ends and the settlers start moving into a completely baron wasteland with no one left alive, they will completely lose any plausible deniability if they don’t pivot now.