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    They feed us poison (bridges)
    so we buy their “cures” (rivers)
    while they suppress our medicine (barren wastelands)

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    Incredible exchange.

    As the Americans learned so painfully in Earth’s final century, a steady collapse of unmaintained bridges is the only safeguard against tyranny. The once-mobile people whose leaders at last lose their focus on building infrastructure will soon burst with freedom and vitality, but the free nation gradually crossing its rivers and improving light rail has begun its rapid slide into despotism. Beware of he who would build you a scenic bike path, for in his heart he dreams himself your master.

    Commissioner Pravin Lal, "U.N. Declaration of Not Bridges"
    
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        They usually define the state in a similar way as us, actually. The entity that maintains a monopoly on political violence. The difference is that we think of the state as an instrument of the ruling class, while they’re idealists who think the state is its own independent entity that functions as a protection racket.

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          And an additional step to their thought process, they’ve bizarrely twisted themselves into knots trying to pretend that somehow only the state is responsible for protection rackets, and that 100% pure private enterprise will never have anything like that happen.

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      This reminds me of early American political discourse where dudes with syphilis would write an article entitled like the tyranny of the post office about how centralized mail would overthrow nature itself

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      This fuckface, what? Thinks the government can “protect your rights” with hovercraft that don’t need roads or bridges? Say me and the commies decide we’re going to steal your shit. You call the cops. Cops say “We would help protect your property, but unfortunately the commies bought all the roads around your property and they’re asking us to pay a 6 million dollar toll. Sorry, it would be unethical for us to spend that much of the taxpayers’ money to save your Ford F150.”

      …because that’s exactly how this shit would play out if we lived in Galt’s Gulch.

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      I took from her infrastructure a single bridge, perhaps to cross it again.

      -Commissioner Pravin Lal, “Time of Bridgement”

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      There was a moment in “God Emperor of Dune” when Duncan Idaho was absolutely shocked that people even in Empire capital live on primitive subsistence and in complete ignorance. Leto explained to him that entire empire looks like that, it’s purposeful and it’s because it’s easier to control.

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    Yeah just the other day, the government built a river right through my backyard, just so some water bureaucrat could continue to have a job where he does sub-Galtian work.

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    ancaptain You will all ford that MF’n river the way God intended! And yes, your oxen will break a leg and half of your supplies will be lost, but is that not a small price to pay to avoid an organization going around solving problems all willy-nilly?

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    How does one become so profoundly stupid without choking to death on household chemicals?

    Like, surely a moment’s clarity would reveal “private profit motives also lead to bad outcomes”

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      Insert Satre quote about the antisemite.

      This isn’t actually something he believes in, it’s just noise. He could just bark like a dog at a picture of a government building for 20 minutes and it would have the exact same meaning and effect on his audience. They’ve decided that “government bad” and any facts, evidence or reality against that two word statement is to be ignored.

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        The form of it being an argument using a hypothetical is important. The audience has been trained to think that if a message is delivered using that form, it is legitimate. They don’t necessarily know how to evaluate the truth content within that message, simply whether it comes in the right form and whether it confirms what they already believed.

        i.e. say something in a way that reminds the audience of a smart professor and they’ll agree with you

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          That is a good analysis of it, I think because ours is a culture of “metaphor” and fiction, and as such, people trust an idea more when it is presented that way, especially when someone is like a smart (movie) professor, who uses analogy and big words to say things. I’ve never met a libertarian type who doesn’t love to overuse big words.

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        How do people come to adopt “government bad” as their axiom? I feel like I get screwed by private for profit companies way more often, so if I was going to just pick a foundational belief, that one has more “evidence” (ie: personal anecdote) supporting it.

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          I think because it is simple, governments do often screw people over (usually on behalf of big companies) and so they just connect the dots there, that the government restricts “freedom” therefore no government would be better, because people would be “free” to do what they want without the government telling them they aren’t allowed. Incidentally, a lot of these types are very libertarian-alert which probably explains why they don’t like the idea of “government telling me what to do” because what they want to do is very illegal and amoral.

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      Because he thinks backwards. Same with every reactionary. They have in their minds an ideal, and from that ideal they then invent a reality.

      And I guarantee that if you got to see his ideations, they’d be terrifying.

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    In a just and stateless utopia, lead by men with extremely good looking sideburns, there are no rivers, the water belongs to the cocacola company, yum foods, and nestle, who provide a great many things to the people