What I find really interesting is that this guy is basically a liberal, yet he has the decency to question the propaganda and breaks the basics down very well.

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    I was VERY skeptical of watching this video when it was suggested to me, is it worth watching bc I absolutely will if it’s even slightly more based than expected. I was anticipating stuff like “actually he didn’t give a shit about communism, he was a sTaLiniSt” but lmk if it’s actually cool. After reading Anarchism or Socialism, I have ZERO patience for anyone disrespecting Stalin.

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      Aside from the occasional don’t-get-me-wrong disclaimer like “I’m sure Stalin was not a great guy” or “I’m sure Stalin did bad things”, I find the rest of it to be an impressive questioning of the Western propaganda narrative for someone who is not a marxist. For us, there’s nothing really new in the video. It’s just satisfying to see someone escape the bubble of lies with nothing else but logic and skepticism.

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        I saw this video and read his text about the booner truth narrative.

        I think the video is deceivingly positive but this guy seems to me like either a fascist or a right deviationist of sorts.

        The problem with this is the pattern. The alt right in germany is also strictly going the anti imperialist route and since the left is simping the usa, the alt right gets huge influx.

        If you confront leftists about it, they are totally brainwashed by western media.

        And I think that is the problem. The right being a pro capital movement in its core, they are trying to play all sides to come out on top.

        We need a better communist pipeline. This is not going to work imo. Same with the “maga communists”. They are what happens when there is no stringent leftist movement and the only " left" is pro imperialist soc dems.

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          I’m not doubting you, just a bit confused. Can you expand on what you mean when you say the left (presumably in Germany) are “simping the USA”? I ask specifically because as dumb as it sounds, I, an American, love keeping up with German leftist politics and all the crazy drama that surrounds it

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            Wellll… Thats gonna be a long one.

            Germany has quite a long history of bad decisions and being one of the core profiteurs of western imperialism, it is a bonafide imperial vassal state.

            Due to this and the history of the third reich, german media is 90% propaganda with a couple true stories and a lot of nothing burger “criticism” of the western core values to appear “non authoritarian”.

            Being a liberal extremist state, german values put “freedumb” above all else, especially public health and housing.

            Because of all these things, the media mix consists of:

            • brown terrorist rapes white woman
            • russian orks genocide freedom loving ukrainians
            • must send weeepons!
            • brown muslims in israels garden kill children and mass rape women
            • occasional “german chancellor not great”
            • occasional “usa not great”

            What this does is create a toxic sub reality. A left that developes in there is very different from what we on this server see as “left”.

            Most people are either socialized into a right wing mindset (workers) or a left lib mindset (white collar, privileged students).

            Both are actually right wingers as they still oppress minorities. Either they oppress “stupid people” or put all men into one basket, etc.

            Its like blue haired screaming activists hating on “the orc” or push against the bds movement (which germans in 'leftist" circles associate with nazis) etc.

            They hate china and dprk with a vengeance and will personally attack you if you so much as keep quiet while they push casual racism.

            I left a group after they publicly crucified a guy who pushed the group for years. I asked for evidence for his alleged misdeeds and was called a mysoginist agent.

            Thats the state of the german left.

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          The rebranding of Stalin as this homophobic dudebro conservative “hard man making hard choices, while triggering the libs but in a non-chud way” - mind you which is even done inside modern russia & georgia - has been absolutely beneficial to crowd of mostly (white) men that never grew out of their edgy 4chan phase and refuse to dismantle their various isms because its all just “identity politics” (never mind that libs appropriate and deformed it from socialists in the first place)

          Its basically capitulation to willingly accept the narratives of the ruling class.

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              Yeah they see him as this ultimate machismo figure. Tito & Fidel are also popular for this reason with these types of “leftists”.

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                Those people just want a cool iPhone screensaver and a phonk song to match. Aesthetics are everything to them, they couldn’t care less about feeding the starving masses

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          I watched a couple of his other videos some time ago. I’m not really sure where he lies politically, but now that you mentioned it, I checked some of his video titles, and he does seem to be alt-right.

          Definitely agree with your point. Every right-wing surge in Europe is a result of the failures of the left. I see it in my country too. Our major left party (which also happens to be communist, at least on paper) has been diluting itself hard ever since the 90s. When the economic crisis occured in 2007 (along with some other issues that got compounded due to the crisis), the party kept trying to “behave in a civil and responsible manner” as they put it. Meanwhile, a newly-formed fascist party started going hard with “revolutionary” speech, and they very quickly grew in numbers enough to make the left party lose seats. This was a direct result of the fascists gaining votes among the disgruntled population, and a lot of party-members becoming inactive as they grew more and more disillusioned. Finally, the party has had a couple of shock election results these past couple of years, and they are starting to change their approach to communication and messaging. Although internally, they seem to still think that trying to appeal to right-wing and centrist voters is more viable than convincing their actual target audience from joining their cause.