It’s Fortnite the card game now. Nice Spiderman, I’m gonna counter it with my SpongeBob Counterspell, equip the Buster Sword to Aragorn, and power up a spaceship 😬
The UB stuff brings in so many more people to the game. A bunch of people who got in just for final fantasy are still showing up at my lgs every week. I hated it too but it’s really hard to argue against after seeing all the new people become regular players because of it. It is doing more for the game than just print more money, even if that’s the only reason Hasbro is doing it.
Would I prefer no UB to what we have now? Yes, almost certainly, but it’s not all bad. I’m enjoying the larger community at my lgs and I’m just going to ignore the sets I’m not into.
That’s true. You really can’t just ignore them because some of them have potentially huge game breaking cards in some formats.
I’ve talked to a lot of people who said they were curious about magic for a while and the x ip was the thing that finally pushed them off the fence. There are people who came in for lotr still playing the game and that’s the thing I saw that finally got me to give up most of the hate.
i hate funko pops and if funko pops got people into one of my hobbies i’d struggle to find common ground with them and i’d still hate funko pops
i quit playing a while back after years and years of system and vision changes away from what i liked about magic. We need some communist card games made by people who have read and understood Baudrillard.
I understand the point you were going for with Funko pops, and I’m sure it wasn’t a real suggestion, but do you have similar feelings for things like final fantasy or avatar? Fandoms are cringe, but not everyone who feels more comfortable giving magic a try because it references things they are deeply familiar with is cringe. They also won’t all connect with you on a spiritual level either, but plenty are fine people.
I like the game. I think it’s great. Maybe the ultimate board/card game even. I like the magic universe as well, but it’s second to the game itself for me. Being able to compare it to something like Funko pops sucks with all the brand deals, but magic is still a great game to me and not just a cheap plastic simulacrum of someone’s beloved childhood IP.
sorry i’ve been holding some form of this in for ten years or so.
I don’t hate all the IPs on their own unless i happen to hate them, I even like some of them as original media. The problem is when the crossover is creatively bankrupt and diminishes something by existing, with a little bit of “wotc’s design choices are fucked” in this particular case.
Fortnite used to have some kind of intentional aesthetic design to it and that’s long fucking gone into the pile of garbage it has become. I value that kind of design vision more than i want more people joining me in a hobby, even when I played mtg regularly i was against nearly every high-level change they made in the relentless pursuit of constant infinite growth, and that eventually drove me to quit. I check in from time to time and every major decision after i stopped playing has only intensified my disdain as well. I especially dislike that this crap is selling well and hasbro is getting rewarded for being dogshit.
i used to love magic and play it every day and read about it when i wasn’t playing. the crossover shit is more egregious to me than planeswalker cards, mythic rares, the m10 rules, killing MPR, ruining EDH by printing cards for it on purpose, killing extended (the first time), all the release schedule shenanigans, and the artificial scarcity business model itself.
I actually quit playing when they introduced planeswalkers and just returned to the game in the last couple of years. I’m honestly not sure why I made either decision. I just sort of rediscovered my love for the game randomly a few years ago. I do feel like I missed out on a lot of stuff by being out of it for such a long time.
You’re not wrong, the business design stuff does suck.
For me I think I’m more surprised that the game is still around and right now I’m happy that it is. I wish it was easier to get the old cards that I played with in the beginning.
They are, but some people think that the return to lorwyn set was pushed out of this year because of avatar, which sucks. So if that’s true UB is already impacting the number of in universe sets. Hopefully they stick with the current mix of UB and in universe.
I’ve accepted its a different game than a few years ago and that’s ok. Like you I skip the sets I don’t care much for and am more of an eternal player anyway these days. You can pry these (proxied) Moxes from my cold, dead hands!
Pretty sure wizards of the coast has already been found to have accepted AI art
Also Magic has been a little trash for a while now. Spiderman as a summonable monster?
It’s Fortnite the card game now. Nice Spiderman, I’m gonna counter it with my SpongeBob Counterspell, equip the Buster Sword to Aragorn, and power up a spaceship 😬
The UB stuff brings in so many more people to the game. A bunch of people who got in just for final fantasy are still showing up at my lgs every week. I hated it too but it’s really hard to argue against after seeing all the new people become regular players because of it. It is doing more for the game than just print more money, even if that’s the only reason Hasbro is doing it.
Would I prefer no UB to what we have now? Yes, almost certainly, but it’s not all bad. I’m enjoying the larger community at my lgs and I’m just going to ignore the sets I’m not into.
you can’t ignore sets when the cards are in type 2 or 1.5 or EDH, or whatever nonsense formats they’ve created in the last decade.
the fortnitification of everything is horrible. greedy fucks should believe in their fucking identity
That’s true. You really can’t just ignore them because some of them have potentially huge game breaking cards in some formats.
I’ve talked to a lot of people who said they were curious about magic for a while and the x ip was the thing that finally pushed them off the fence. There are people who came in for lotr still playing the game and that’s the thing I saw that finally got me to give up most of the hate.
i hate funko pops and if funko pops got people into one of my hobbies i’d struggle to find common ground with them and i’d still hate funko pops
i quit playing a while back after years and years of system and vision changes away from what i liked about magic. We need some communist card games made by people who have read and understood Baudrillard.
I understand the point you were going for with Funko pops, and I’m sure it wasn’t a real suggestion, but do you have similar feelings for things like final fantasy or avatar? Fandoms are cringe, but not everyone who feels more comfortable giving magic a try because it references things they are deeply familiar with is cringe. They also won’t all connect with you on a spiritual level either, but plenty are fine people.
I like the game. I think it’s great. Maybe the ultimate board/card game even. I like the magic universe as well, but it’s second to the game itself for me. Being able to compare it to something like Funko pops sucks with all the brand deals, but magic is still a great game to me and not just a cheap plastic simulacrum of someone’s beloved childhood IP.
sorry i’ve been holding some form of this in for ten years or so.
I don’t hate all the IPs on their own unless i happen to hate them, I even like some of them as original media. The problem is when the crossover is creatively bankrupt and diminishes something by existing, with a little bit of “wotc’s design choices are fucked” in this particular case.
Fortnite used to have some kind of intentional aesthetic design to it and that’s long fucking gone into the pile of garbage it has become. I value that kind of design vision more than i want more people joining me in a hobby, even when I played mtg regularly i was against nearly every high-level change they made in the relentless pursuit of constant infinite growth, and that eventually drove me to quit. I check in from time to time and every major decision after i stopped playing has only intensified my disdain as well. I especially dislike that this crap is selling well and hasbro is getting rewarded for being dogshit.
i used to love magic and play it every day and read about it when i wasn’t playing. the crossover shit is more egregious to me than planeswalker cards, mythic rares, the m10 rules, killing MPR, ruining EDH by printing cards for it on purpose, killing extended (the first time), all the release schedule shenanigans, and the artificial scarcity business model itself.
I actually quit playing when they introduced planeswalkers and just returned to the game in the last couple of years. I’m honestly not sure why I made either decision. I just sort of rediscovered my love for the game randomly a few years ago. I do feel like I missed out on a lot of stuff by being out of it for such a long time.
You’re not wrong, the business design stuff does suck.
For me I think I’m more surprised that the game is still around and right now I’m happy that it is. I wish it was easier to get the old cards that I played with in the beginning.
Ya they’re still doing normal sets at least, too, right?
They are, but some people think that the return to lorwyn set was pushed out of this year because of avatar, which sucks. So if that’s true UB is already impacting the number of in universe sets. Hopefully they stick with the current mix of UB and in universe.
Oh I lov d Llorwyn when it first came out. That’s cool that they’re coming back to it.
I’ve accepted its a different game than a few years ago and that’s ok. Like you I skip the sets I don’t care much for and am more of an eternal player anyway these days. You can pry these (proxied) Moxes from my cold, dead hands!
Haven’t they seen Spiderverse? He’s clearly a planeswalker
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