10 years after the Supreme Court extended marriage rights to all same-sex couples, it will consider whether to take a case asking it to overturn the decision.
everyone to the right of and including bernie sanders needs to be arrested and re-educated. america is a sick society full of damaged people and they need to be dealt with. im not being hyperbolic, the survival of our species, the planet, and every species on it depends on it. for too long fascists have destroyed the planet and the “liberal democratic institutions” our society is built on, while liberals sat by and watched them do it at best while helping them do it the rest of the time. they built the prisons for us already. we need to make use of them.
I’ve said this before and I’ll say it again: the US will need a cultural revolution after a socialist one and it will be the most difficult undertaking communists ever do. There won’t be re-education because Americans were never educated in the first place. It will require isolating reactionaries from one another so they don’t fall backwards into old habits. Some people will spend the rest of their lives away from society because they will reject every attempt to educate them decades later. And even more will be so extreme, they would rather die than accept capitalism failed.
Even when socialists fix everything wrong in their lives, American reactionaries will still cling to the myths of the old empire.
I agree but I’ll go a step further. The US needs a 1917-style double revolution (because let’s be honest, if the current state is toppled by revolt American communists will not be leading it initially), followed by a gruelling civil war that will inevitably occur, followed by a great purge to root out all the remaining counterrevolutionaries still in the public institutions and military, and finally a cultural revolution to re-educate the masses and/ or send capitalist roaders to the countryside.
Anything short of this will not allow Socialism to become a reality and instead you’re just gonna see a bunch of Balkanized North American states committing multiple genocidal wars against each other until China/ Russia/ EU is forced to step in to resolve the chaos.
why the hell would anyone do anything to help Americans out in that situation anyway, it’s not like Americans have ever done anything to help anyone else out. Rest of the world has its own problems to deal with.
It will require isolating reactionaries from one another so they don’t fall backwards into old habits
How the fuck are you going to do that in the age of the internet? Niche groups of reactionaries have been finding each other better than any time in history.
Serious question. I see absolutely no possible way to do it without incarceration.
Responded to another person below. One idea is to have them in jobs programs where they work among committed socialists in a limited capacity where they can’t sabotage anything or hurt anyone.
And how does that isolate them from connecting with other reactionaries where they’ll revert? They still have free time out of the workplace unless you’re doing incarceration.
Coopt their trusted sources. Post-revolution Fox News will keep operating, but use the reaction to guide them in directions that are less destructive and away from counterrevolution. Let them vote™ and fight the power in ways that can be entirely controlled.
These aren’t brain geniuses we’re talking about here. Most won’t ever know their favorite schlop outlet has been hijacked. It is trivially easy to get most chuds to agree to communist ideas if drenched in “own the libs” dressing.
All these people do IRL is regurgitate whatever they last heard on Fox, Infowars, or whatever their preferred flavor of reactionary news is. No incarceration needed if you convince these people that the global pedophile cabal is your hand curated list of scumbag landlords and finance capital leaches. Imprisioning them would only strengthen the forces of reaction. Better to guide them in a useful direction.
I don’t disagree but frankly there’s no way to isolate reactionaries from one another. Re-education camps? The detainees are going to talk and are not isolated from each other and will draw on each others strength to form cliques who resist probably centered around Christian faith and such and trying to lean into the feeling of being persecuted. The only way would be putting them all in isolated holding jail cells and that wouldn’t make productive members of society but broken, angry, and mentally unstable people. You can try to control it somewhat in camps by instituting no talking in certain areas and monitoring others as best you can but it won’t be foolproof.
I think there needs to be a limit on how much time people are subjected to re-education before we decide they’re not taking it seriously and take other steps for such deeply unserious reactionary clowns. Some amount just by being sent to the country-side and deprived of Fox News and internet reactionary brain worms will probably see reason within a year or so. Those who do need to be separated quickly from the others to prevent them from reverting and placed in their own camps to advance along those lines.
Your post revolution society would need more than just internet monitoring or censorship. For one thing 9/10 churches would become and arguably already are reactionary cells, a third place for breeding reaction, stewing in it, etc.
The way to isolate them would be to integrate them into committed groups of socialists. For example, sending them to work in a factory that’s worked solely by registered party members. The isolation wouldn’t be like a jail cell, rather planned activities where they’re not spending all their time doomscrolling social media or what have you.
Of course, they wouldn’t be put in charge of anything where they could implement their reactionary beliefs or sabotage/undermine others. In the factory example, maybe they help on an assembly line or clean up spills on the factory floor. Maybe they just shadow one of the workers. The point is to get them out of their beliefs by showing them socialism works.
This isn’t something that would be feasible for all of them. Incels being a good example where the quickest solution would be to have them work alongside women. But that would risk exposing those women to harm, so the incel can’t be allowed out into the world and may have to stay in the incel camp.
Like I said, this will be the most difficult undertaking ever done by socialists. There’s going to be a lot of problems rehabilitating American reactionaries not seen in China or the Soviet Union. It’s a logistical nightmare. It will be necessary, however, because the alternative is having socialism fail or carrying out mass murder.
but frankly there’s no way to isolate reactionaries from one another.
Give each of em their own isolated segment of Facebook entirely populated by ComradeGPT and ChudButBenignGPT accounts, and let them argue with the former and plan the counterrevolution with the latter.
everyone to the right of and including bernie sanders needs to be arrested and re-educated. america is a sick society full of damaged people and they need to be dealt with. im not being hyperbolic, the survival of our species, the planet, and every species on it depends on it. for too long fascists have destroyed the planet and the “liberal democratic institutions” our society is built on, while liberals sat by and watched them do it at best while helping them do it the rest of the time. they built the prisons for us already. we need to make use of them.
I’ve said this before and I’ll say it again: the US will need a cultural revolution after a socialist one and it will be the most difficult undertaking communists ever do. There won’t be re-education because Americans were never educated in the first place. It will require isolating reactionaries from one another so they don’t fall backwards into old habits. Some people will spend the rest of their lives away from society because they will reject every attempt to educate them decades later. And even more will be so extreme, they would rather die than accept capitalism failed.
Even when socialists fix everything wrong in their lives, American reactionaries will still cling to the myths of the old empire.
I agree but I’ll go a step further. The US needs a 1917-style double revolution (because let’s be honest, if the current state is toppled by revolt American communists will not be leading it initially), followed by a gruelling civil war that will inevitably occur, followed by a great purge to root out all the remaining counterrevolutionaries still in the public institutions and military, and finally a cultural revolution to re-educate the masses and/ or send capitalist roaders to the countryside.
Anything short of this will not allow Socialism to become a reality and instead you’re just gonna see a bunch of Balkanized North American states committing multiple genocidal wars against each other until China/ Russia/ EU is forced to step in to resolve the chaos.
why the hell would anyone do anything to help Americans out in that situation anyway, it’s not like Americans have ever done anything to help anyone else out. Rest of the world has its own problems to deal with.
Two words: nuclear weapons.
How the fuck are you going to do that in the age of the internet? Niche groups of reactionaries have been finding each other better than any time in history.
Serious question. I see absolutely no possible way to do it without incarceration.
Responded to another person below. One idea is to have them in jobs programs where they work among committed socialists in a limited capacity where they can’t sabotage anything or hurt anyone.
And how does that isolate them from connecting with other reactionaries where they’ll revert? They still have free time out of the workplace unless you’re doing incarceration.
Coopt their trusted sources. Post-revolution Fox News will keep operating, but use the reaction to guide them in directions that are less destructive and away from counterrevolution. Let them vote™ and fight the power in ways that can be entirely controlled.
These aren’t brain geniuses we’re talking about here. Most won’t ever know their favorite schlop outlet has been hijacked. It is trivially easy to get most chuds to agree to communist ideas if drenched in “own the libs” dressing.
All these people do IRL is regurgitate whatever they last heard on Fox, Infowars, or whatever their preferred flavor of reactionary news is. No incarceration needed if you convince these people that the global pedophile cabal is your hand curated list of scumbag landlords and finance capital leaches. Imprisioning them would only strengthen the forces of reaction. Better to guide them in a useful direction.
We have to get rid of a significant amount of them unfortunately…i can’t figure out a better way
destroy the internet as we know it
I don’t disagree but frankly there’s no way to isolate reactionaries from one another. Re-education camps? The detainees are going to talk and are not isolated from each other and will draw on each others strength to form cliques who resist probably centered around Christian faith and such and trying to lean into the feeling of being persecuted. The only way would be putting them all in isolated holding jail cells and that wouldn’t make productive members of society but broken, angry, and mentally unstable people. You can try to control it somewhat in camps by instituting no talking in certain areas and monitoring others as best you can but it won’t be foolproof.
I think there needs to be a limit on how much time people are subjected to re-education before we decide they’re not taking it seriously and take other steps for such deeply unserious reactionary clowns. Some amount just by being sent to the country-side and deprived of Fox News and internet reactionary brain worms will probably see reason within a year or so. Those who do need to be separated quickly from the others to prevent them from reverting and placed in their own camps to advance along those lines.
Your post revolution society would need more than just internet monitoring or censorship. For one thing 9/10 churches would become and arguably already are reactionary cells, a third place for breeding reaction, stewing in it, etc.
The way to isolate them would be to integrate them into committed groups of socialists. For example, sending them to work in a factory that’s worked solely by registered party members. The isolation wouldn’t be like a jail cell, rather planned activities where they’re not spending all their time doomscrolling social media or what have you.
Of course, they wouldn’t be put in charge of anything where they could implement their reactionary beliefs or sabotage/undermine others. In the factory example, maybe they help on an assembly line or clean up spills on the factory floor. Maybe they just shadow one of the workers. The point is to get them out of their beliefs by showing them socialism works.
This isn’t something that would be feasible for all of them. Incels being a good example where the quickest solution would be to have them work alongside women. But that would risk exposing those women to harm, so the incel can’t be allowed out into the world and may have to stay in the incel camp.
Like I said, this will be the most difficult undertaking ever done by socialists. There’s going to be a lot of problems rehabilitating American reactionaries not seen in China or the Soviet Union. It’s a logistical nightmare. It will be necessary, however, because the alternative is having socialism fail or carrying out mass murder.
Give each of em their own isolated segment of Facebook entirely populated by ComradeGPT and ChudButBenignGPT accounts, and let them argue with the former and plan the counterrevolution with the latter.
Ive thought about it too and arrived at similar conclusions.