• FlakesBongler [they/them]@hexbear.net
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    7 days ago

    Real ones know that canonicity is a trap for the mind

    To allow Bethesda to determine the outcome of a story you had a part in is to allow them to kill a part of you

    Do not allow it

    kill them back

    Metaphorically of course

  • abc [he/him, comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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    6 days ago

    I refuse to believe and parlay with the “the TV show is the definitive canon moving forward” fuckheads both at Bethesda and on Reddit.

    Power armor shouldn’t be able to fly and if you try to tell me that WestTek made three different iterations of Power Armor that for whatever reason can’t take a bullet from a pistol to the chest…I don’t believe you. It’s not even ‘haha oh that’s a funny joke about war/defense contractors/etc’ explanation, the show literally just says ‘oh yeah they’re all welded like shit in this one spot’??? FO4 already established that the T60 was the entire damn reason the US wasn’t overtaken by China during their invasion of Alaska in the latter half of the Sino-American war. Not a single Chinese soldier managed to shoot one of the grunts wearing T60 armor in the chest??? What

    I don’t even give a fuck about Shady Sands not being where it should be and the whole ‘so…the NCR???’ cloud that’s been looming over the show since they established Shady Sands and whatnot. Don’t even care about the Brotherhood’s ‘Clerics’ (ok bro…thematically sure, it works but the Brotherhood literally has like 6 other already established ranks and one of them basically did everything clerics do…) but i swear to god everytime there’s a live action series of some long-running series it just stomps around on the lore and AHHH ahhh ahh Fallout 5’s gonna be shit but I could’ve guessed that from 4 and the current state of 76. Woe upon my beloved series.

    COLD FUSION boohoo oooaaaaaaauhhh

    • FALGSConaut [comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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      6 days ago

      This is how I approach pretty much anything I’m a fan of because everything is inevitably ruined by capitalism and the endless pursuit of the profit motive. What once was interesting & thought provoking is sanded & smoothed until it’s nothing but a corporate pill easily swallowed with a message that inevitably promotes Liberal Capitalism as the One True Answer

  • SkingradGuard [he/him, comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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    6 days ago

    I’m just so pissed Bethesda ruined fallout lore because at this point, humans have rebuilt civilization in some way already. They have to ignore all that and have everything in a perpetual “several years after the apocalypse” vibe.

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      6 days ago

      it broke my brain so hard my head canon just says there was a total icehouse nuclear winter that encased the whole world in ice for 200 years

      but everyone has no idea and ghouls were idk unconscious and it’s just a blank spot. so the ice melts and you get a nuclear summer, toxic goo released like in Children of Time, and

      radionucleotides become active again and react everywhere because the ice moderator is gone. oh and also every bomb was salted with Americium-241 and other crazy long lasting isotopes

      holy shit why the hell did i think so hard about this

      • fox [comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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        I get the sense 200 years is how long it took to recover to a point where nation-states are viable again. Based on in-universe text, the majority of the population died in the opening days of the nuclear exchange and much of the continent was left uninhabitable or ravaged by freak mutant animals that survivors or their aimless descendants couldn’t deal with. Not to mention the generational ennui of being the descendants of a civilization that would never be equalled in their lifetimes no matter how hard they tried.

        There’s thriving settlements again by the time of FO1 which means at least a feudal stage, and the NCR reportedly has industrial manufacturing in some capacity by NV. The Legion only exists because Eddy Sallow rediscovered Rome and implemented a version of it himself.

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          yeah everything sitting around mostly intact (at least in the east coast) requires a sort of mass sterilization (so little organic decay) and obviously everyone mostly hiding in vaults or shelters. i know in game lore counters that but I just ignore it. or like you say, most locations were so depopulated it makes sense why there is still food sitting out because these were no-go zones until recently (like in FO4 or DC wasteland).

    • robot_dog_with_gun [they/them]@hexbear.net
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      6 days ago

      no i want them to leave my beloved alone and for bethesda to go out of business so somebody competent can make Fallout 5 where the courier gets out of one of those sim pods to reveal fallout 4 didn’t happen

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    6 days ago

    Based off the state of the NCR/BoS in the story I’m inclined to believe a Mr. House ending

    I really doubt they’ll have a courier ending but Mr house is definitely one of the better written characters and considering the fact they hyped him up it wouldn’t make sense for mr house to have been 9 iron’d

    Best way to do it would be a Mr House but incompetent ending: Strip families run amok and the freeside holds a lot of power. Platinum chip/securitons get fucked up and Mr houses army isn’t as powerful or omnipotent if the bunker factory kept working.

    Caesar could make a return I wouldn’t mind seeing that either

  • BadTakesHaver [he/him, they/them]@hexbear.net
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    6 days ago

    its the ending where the female courier tracks benny down in order to sleep with him, lets benny escape to the fort, flirts with benny at the fort, and then kills every legionary at the fort in order to set benny free

  • Lavender [they/them]@hexbear.net
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    6 days ago

    Remember when one of the Bethesda guys tried to connect lore by saying the MC of 4 was in the opening video of 1 where an unarmed guy gets executed?

    Behold the lore and despair!

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      6 days ago

      It’s not really based on anything more than the fallout wiki. It’s just a boilerplate “vague sci-fi flavoured plot” slapped onto Popular Franchise - actually it’s kinda like Star Wars 7 (can’t remember the name, don’t care).

      They’ve heard of this thing called “lore”, and know it gets the line to go up, so they got a guy to add in the maximal lore references and another guy to taze the first one when they start to talk about consistency.

      Amazing prop work though, and I liked the actors.