• save_vs_death [they/them]@hexbear.net
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    i mean, yeah, unironically, maldela’s legacy, his work with the ANC and what the ANC precisely did has been largely scrubbed from liberal retellings of history because if libs knew they would all be on the apartheid government’s side

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        During the lifetime of great revolutionaries, the oppressing classes constantly hounded them, received their theories with the most savage malice, the most furious hatred and the most unscrupulous campaigns of lies and slander. After their death, attempts are made to convert them into harmless icons, to canonize them, so to say, and to hallow their names to a certain extent for the “consolation” of the oppressed classes and with the object of duping the latter, while at the same time robbing the revolutionary theory of its substance, blunting its revolutionary edge and vulgarizing it.

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        He was the founder and one of the leaders of the armed wing of the African National Congress (ANC), also known as uMkhonto weSizwe (MK). They mainly did things like sabotage government buildings by destroying electrical substations, or detonating car bombs to kill government security/military. They would also burn down farms. They absolutely killed people and Nelon Mandela was personally part of the planning and execution.

        They did this as part of an ultimatum against the South African government to end apartheid through constitutional amendment or the campaign of sabotage would continue. Mandela was a hero and should be remembered and venerated as such.

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    I hate smug empty redditsms so goddamn much! “Erm wow, says a lot” what the fuck does it say you spineless witless fuck, say what you fucking mean, I know it’s gonna be some shit about savages along with the smug Churchillian implication that they deserve it, but even that nazi fuck Churchill could say what he meant

    What am I drawing from behind my waistband? Wow, really? Heh, don’t worry about it sweaty. You sweet summer child. The fact that you haven’t already guessed says everything we need to know.

  • SpookyBogMonster@lemmy.ml
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    Westerner’s ideas about Nelson Mandela are so warped. They view him as a MLK Jr. kind of figure (and even your average gringo doesn’t understand MLK very well), who was just a nice, peace-loving guy who peacefully peace’d his way to ending apartheid.

    Y’all, the anti-Apartheid resistance was full of violence! Look up ‘necklacing’ sometime. That shit isn’t pretty, and we can talk about whether it was “effective” or what that means. But it was still a part of that struggle, and that’s just how it is. You have to take the entire thing, as it is, and not cherry pick the parts that sound cuddly and nice.

    Palestine is no different. Western libs, please be normal and introspective challenge, Status: impossible.