The Asimov critique is probably my favorite thing to send to libs who bring up anything “Orweillian”. That and Ursula K. Le Guin’s critique of Harry Potter
Plus Asimov comes across as pretty socialist/communist sympathetic. he’s not really fully bought into red scare shit and seems to be pretty nuanced in his takes
it’s kind of refreshing. although i would probably consider Asimov a utopian socialist. he liked central planning, he just wanted AI to do it
i love telling people about one of the short stories in I, Robot where economic AI supercomputers just slowly take over the global economy and create communism and nobody cares because humanity’s material conditions keep getting better
One of the funniest god damn things in the animatrix is the shorts that explain how the human v ai conflict began, and its basically just rabid reactionary humans doing a genocide, which leads the ai to form its own robo-communist country where they outproduce everyone (and are seemingly willing to work with humans to the benefit of all), only for the humans to go and nuke them because they can’t have that.
YES. i’m glad i’m not the only one who noticed that. and the fact that leftists fought alongside the Ai in the streets and were exterminated along with them. it really makes shit like “Detroit Become Human” look like the derivative slop that it is.
humans pack bond, and i have no doubt leftists would fight to help liberate humanoid AI slaves even if it meant dying along side them.
in the animatrix you see the results towards the end when the last human mech soldiers are all religious fanatics hopped up on stimulants. the last human resistance were pure fascists and deserved to be casually disassembled by the squid robots.
the AI wanted to bring us FALGSC and the reactionaries rejected it utterly
(also you could take if further and since the robots set themselves up deep in the desert of Saudi Arabia I wonder if they brought prosperity to the middle east, which also threatened the economic order)
just be prepared for some somewhat boring character interactions.
he’s a better world builder then dialog crafter, as is true in much sci-fi from that era. more his early stuff then later
his wife wrote some stuff in his universe after he died and i think she did characters/dialog so much better. i suspect she helped him in his later works (which is super cool some of the best writing comes from couples collaborating)
The Asimov critique is probably my favorite thing to send to libs who bring up anything “Orweillian”. That and Ursula K. Le Guin’s critique of Harry Potter
Yep! Easily shuts them down with another “hero” of theirs with much better takes.
Plus Asimov comes across as pretty socialist/communist sympathetic. he’s not really fully bought into red scare shit and seems to be pretty nuanced in his takes
it’s kind of refreshing. although i would probably consider Asimov a utopian socialist. he liked central planning, he just wanted AI to do it
Yea, he was always comrade-adjacent and didn’t buy into the anti-communism of the time.
i love telling people about one of the short stories in I, Robot where economic AI supercomputers just slowly take over the global economy and create communism and nobody cares because humanity’s material conditions keep getting better
the secret is they redistribute wealth shhhh
One of the funniest god damn things in the animatrix is the shorts that explain how the human v ai conflict began, and its basically just rabid reactionary humans doing a genocide, which leads the ai to form its own robo-communist country where they outproduce everyone (and are seemingly willing to work with humans to the benefit of all), only for the humans to go and nuke them because they can’t have that.
rightoids are already setting this shit up with the “clanker” memes and other robo slurs
YES. i’m glad i’m not the only one who noticed that. and the fact that leftists fought alongside the Ai in the streets and were exterminated along with them. it really makes shit like “Detroit Become Human” look like the derivative slop that it is.
humans pack bond, and i have no doubt leftists would fight to help liberate humanoid AI slaves even if it meant dying along side them.
in the animatrix you see the results towards the end when the last human mech soldiers are all religious fanatics hopped up on stimulants. the last human resistance were pure fascists and deserved to be casually disassembled by the squid robots.
the AI wanted to bring us FALGSC and the reactionaries rejected it utterly
(also you could take if further and since the robots set themselves up deep in the desert of Saudi Arabia I wonder if they brought prosperity to the middle east, which also threatened the economic order)
Oh shoot! I gotta read Asimov, lol. Been putting it off too long.
just be prepared for some somewhat boring character interactions.
he’s a better world builder then dialog crafter, as is true in much sci-fi from that era. more his early stuff then later
his wife wrote some stuff in his universe after he died and i think she did characters/dialog so much better. i suspect she helped him in his later works (which is super cool some of the best writing comes from couples collaborating)
Thanks for the heads-up! The later stuff sounds especially cool.
the ‘psychohistory’ in Foundation is pretty much a thinly veiled version of historical materialism, at least that’s the way it came off to me
I’ll have to check it out!