Basically: should i care about ethics?

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    2 days ago

    I like to think about ethics. I still pirate some random stuff here and there, but one thing I like to do is make sure I’m getting some money to the creators of what I’m enjoying, skipping the middle man as much as can be.

    this is mostly only relevant with music, but if I can buy an album or song directly from the artist, that’s awesome. it not, i try to five what service benefits them most.

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    5 days ago

    Basically: should i care about ethics capitalist ideology?

    No.

    The system is literally genociding people, destroying the planet, etc. It’s a major mistake to take their “ethics” seriously. It’s just another grift. Enjoy the natural freedom of information while you still can.

  • mic_check_one_two@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    3 days ago

    I used to only pirate things that I owned in different formats, (like owning a DVD, but wanting to watch it on my iPad), or planned on buying in the near future. But nowadays, it feels more like stealing from billionaires is a moral imperative.

  • Eternal192@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    5 days ago

    Technically you rented that what you think you bought and when the licence expires the game,movie, etc. will be deleted from your library, best recent example is The Crew by Ubisoft and there was that whole debacle with Sony and their Discovery Channel licence where people lost a ton of documentaries, was later restored… mostly, but it showed how fragile this digital ecosystem is and why people turn to piracy eventually since you basically don’t own anything you shouldn’t feel guilty about it.

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    5 days ago

    You’ve conflated laws and ethics. Does piracy violate some laws in some jurisdictions? Unquestionably. Is every single law ethical? Unlikely.

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    You should only feel bad about pirating art made by small independent artists, and even then only if you don’t have the disposable income to easily afford it.

    Piracy is an actually victimless crime, you aren’t depriving anyone of anything except your hypothetical dollars. And that’s only a loss if you were going to spend them in the first place. Then add the fact that selling digital goods at all is basically a massive scam…

    Also, in many cases it’s actually better for the artist to donate directly to them than to buy their products from a store that’s probably taking a cut.

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    5 days ago

    Regardless of what conclusion you develop, some things are always morally acceptable to pirate. For example, Metallica.

    /s

    On a serious note, IP is a made up concept. Pirate away.

  • ganamasawa@lemmy.ml
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    5 days ago

    Freely pirate everything without guilt. If you use torrent then seed how much you can. It will help your fellow human beings.

    BUT if/when you have money to spare invest them into creators/art that bring you something. It seems antithetical because they taught us real art should be free from capitalism’s shackles yadda yadda, but art and artists needs money to flourish. Find indie artists and wacky projects and fund them.

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      BUT if/when you have money to spare invest them into creators/art that bring you something. It seems antithetical because they taught us real art should be free from capitalism’s shackles yadda yadda, but art and artists needs money to flourish. Find indie artists and wacky projects and fund them.

      This is an excellent point and it bears repeating. Indie artists deserve to eat, and unfortunately we’re currently stuck in a capitalist hell hole. So until that system is demolished, throw them some coin for their work.

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          5 days ago

          It doesn’t, and that’s a good point. A lot of supposed “leftists” are really just sitting around waiting for it to happen, without realizing it takes all of us joining an org and doing some shit about the injustice around us.

          • Azzu@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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            5 days ago

            Joining an org was not what I meant, even though it’s definitely a good thing, and I agree.

            My point was more about, yes, indie artists deserve to eat, but paying them in a capitalistic fashion, likely through a payment processor, a subscription/donation platform, and whatever other intermediaries, might be a “feel-good” sentiment, but if you’re serious about demolishing the system, should not be done.

  • алсааас [she/they]@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    5 days ago

    When it comes to music I try to buy the stuff I like (mostly flacs) on bandcamp Fridays (certain days of the year where bandcamp charges 0% fees from the creators).

    If it’s indie/small/mid-sized creator I’d like to see more of. They also sell vinyl and other merch which is rly cool

  • outhouseperilous@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    5 days ago

    Everything.

    Like, i pay screenwriters by bringing them lunch while they collect cans around town and actors by tipping on lunch, but you, by paying at a movie theatre, generally do not.