Charlie Kirk has never received a warm welcome in the pages of this magazine. It doesn’t matter now. The assassination of Kirk is a tragedy. Morally, it is unjustifiable. Politically, it is cause for serious alarm. A larger spiral into political violence would be a catastrophe for the Left.
As of the time of this writing, no one knows the shooter’s ideology or motivations. But some key points are clear enough.
No one should be killed as punishment for political expression, no matter how objectionable. In addition to our basic abhorrence of violence, we are also proponents of democracy, which depends on free speech and open inquiry. Without them, collective self-governance is impossible and tyranny becomes inevitable. Imposing silence on political opponents by brute force, whether in the form of state crackdowns on dissent or lone-wolf assassinations of leaders, undermines a principle that democratic socialists have always held dear.
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I am gonna get so much milage out of this one.
It wouldn’t bother me if the libs were just doing some “we don’t condone political violence” bs (even they condone political violence everyday). Its typical lib hypocrisy and civility fetishizing.
What drives me nuts is not pretending like Kirk was a fascist pos and its good he’s dead. Its good when your enemies die. Wring your hands about how it happened. Finger wag about people celebrating. You’re libs its what you’re going to do. But calling his death a tragedy???
I fucking hate liberals. Even more when they pretend to “leftists” like these fools
Yeah they acting like Hillary wasn’t jolly with the “we came we saw” girlbossing a nation now in absolute ruins. Yeah some worthless chud died but wasn’t hillary laughing at generations of Libyan lives being ruined?
No one should be killed as punishment for political expression, no matter how objectionable. In addition to our basic abhorrence of violence, we are also proponents of democracy, which depends on free speech and open inquiry. Without them, collective self-governance is impossible and tyranny becomes inevitable.
Fucking lol, imagine being this clueless. Your opponents don’t in fact give a damn about free speech and open inquiry, you should never let them speak freely.
I just escalate these talking points to the stratosphere as soon as I hear them. “Oh, so given the opportunity you wouldn’t kill Hitler in 1930? When would it be okay? '33 when the concentration camps open? '38 with the forced annexation of the sudetenland? '39 with the invasion of Poland?”
I’m sure a lib would still say ”violence is never the answer”
“You just call anyone you don’t like a nazi, and that’s why the left keeps losing”
I found a YouTube link in your comment. Here are links to the same video on alternative frontends that protect your privacy:
The man was a talking head for numerous think tanks and government agencies. Who gives a fuck.
Jacobin yet again being liberals.
Charlie Kirk has never received a warm welcome in the pages of this magazine… until now!
TBH, he did become a good fascist.
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There is a clear and obvious response to “political violence” pearl clutching:
Yes, political violence is bad, but better this happen to politicians and pundits than to the innocent schoolchildren.
Ben Burgis
lol it’s the “GiVe ThEm An ArGuMeNt!” loser
ben when someone gives them a high velocity argument:
He’s been making this same argument for years at this point, and the fascists are as bold as ever, despite libs running with his playbook.
As I look at the life of Kirk, he was a husband, a father, and what else I do not know. He had friends, I am sure. He played a significant role in his connection with the community, which was personal and also collective. But the problem I would have in affirming this life at an end-of-life ceremony is that he evidently did not care in his living about the security and comfort of others. He did not show empathy. Whether he believed what he espoused, or it was simply a marketing ploy for influence and money, I don’t know, and no one will ever know for sure. But Charlie Kirk expanded hatred, marketed the vile speech of old racism in new wineskins, and further jeopardized the lives and security of others.
Graylan Scott Hagler is an advisor with FOR-USA and the founder and president of Faith Strategies USA. Until retiring from his position in 2022, Hagler was Senior Minister at Plymouth Congregational United Church of Christ in Washington, D.C.
Whether he believed what he espoused, or it was simply a marketing ploy for influence and money, I don’t know
Imagine believing there’s any material difference between these. If you act exactly like a nazi people are going to rightfully call you a fucking nazi, who cares what you “truly believe”
obv christians would be “what about intent tho” , still for minister this is like “what a piece of shit, huh, hope family would be okay”
Given the next sentence, I think his point was that it doesn’t especially matter.
The solidarity of the political class is pretty impressive tbh
No one writing for jacobin is a part of the political class lol, much less ben burgis who’s biggest achievement was going on joe rogan once
People need to make a list of every “leftist” writing shit like this because they can not be trusted.
Charlie Kirk got hard powered and the purveyors of soft power are very on edge about it.
soooo many influencers just saw a glorified podcaster get merked and realized that actions can, occasionally, have consequences. Chickens came home to roost
No one should be killed as punishment for political expression, no matter how objectionable
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