James Heenan, head of the UN Human Rights Office for North Korea, told a Geneva briefing that the number of executions for both normal and political crimes had increased since COVID-era restrictions.

An unspecified number of people had already been executed under new laws imposing the death penalty for distributing foreign TV series, including the popular K-Dramas from South Korea, he added.

kim-cool If we find you watching Alien: Earth, we will take you out.

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    yeonmi-park the United States executes people for being mentally ill, being homeless, being black, growing the wrong plants, having the wrong dog, but you have the freedom to watch any old slop you want and that’s liberty

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      Using her in this context is pure gold, nice.

      Not to mention, the US has secret police disappearing undesirables. They call them immigration enforcement, but we had a different name for them in the 30s and 40s - Gestapo.

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    From a subsequent interview with James Heenan on methodology:

    How do you monitor human rights in a context like DPRK?

    We rely on first-hand testimonies from victims and witnesses: the thousands of people who have left the DPRK for other countries. We also use information published by the Government of the DPRK, as well as other open-source data such as satellite images. We use other sources, such as information from civil society organizations, to corroborate what we hear. For this report, the Office interviewed 314 victims and witnesses who left the country after 2014. We located these people with the help of our partners, including civil society.

    So ‘civil society’ organisations (meaning political think tanks, USAID fronts etc) come and say “oh yeah, we work with some people who escaped North Korea in the last ten years, want us to hook you up with the some testimony”.

    So they interview the people provided by these groups (who are also often providing them money, housing, travel documentation in exchange for giving these testimonies) who tell them whatever they think they want to hear.

    And then guys like James go, ‘well it sounds kind of crazy but since we can’t go to North Korea to verify it, I guess it must just be true! How terrible.’

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      first-hand testimonies

      From :yeonmi-park: & co? People whose livelihoods depend on support from the South Korean state and NED fronts? Who are threatened if they refuse to provide the “correct” testimony? Whose testimonies are entirely excluded if they contradict the narrative and are determined by the “researchers” to be the result of brainwashing?

      information published by the Government of the DPRK

      For some reason I doubt that the DPRK has published anything claiming to have executed people for watching the Ben Shapiro Show.

      other open-source data

      What “data” are we talking about? This could encompass basically any information from almost any source. Since this is the UN though it’s probably info cooked up by the CIA and funneled through multiple fronts.

      satellite images

      Can anyone explain to me how it’s possible to determine that people were executed for watching the Ben Shapiro Show using satellite imagery?

      information from civil society organizations

      You mean the NED fronts staffed by South Korean fascists who cook up stories about the DPRK? That you take at face value?

      We located these people with the help of our partners, including civil society.

      “We let the not-CIA pick and choose which defectors from the designated bad country we spoke with, they were definitely all actual defectors and we can definitely take everything they say at face value, stop asking questions.”

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          The last one is the most egregious. “The Adolf Hitler Institute for Jewish Studies provided us with multiple individuals who testified that Jews fed innocent Auschwitz guards to imported alligators from Florida, Auschwitz was a luxury resort before Stalin killed all the guests and blamed it on Hitler” etc.

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      extraordinary attorney woo

      Woo Young Woo is a young lawyer with Asperger’s syndrome. She boasts a high IQ, an impressive memory and a wonderfully creative thought process, but she struggles with everyday interactions.

      Monk and it’s generational consequences I think

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        Need a “Communism Death Toll”? Just use a random number generator and then triple it. Then add zeroes til it sounds appropriately ridiculous.

        Honestly, the way these idiots get their numbers for “deaths caused by communism” is insane. At one point, some of them claimed children that weren’t born due to industrialization, education, and state assistance in family planning, as deaths caused by communism. Which, may not be the most insane one, but did lead to jokes about “Stalin brand condoms”. “Red Rubbers! Prevent adding to overpopulation, and add to the Communism Death Toll at the same time!”

        If we used these kinds of metrics for a Capitalism Death Toll… we’d hit much higher numbers for a far shorter time period, for sure. Even using these ridiculous metrics for communism deaths, and conservative estimates for capitalism deaths, capitalism still kills far more people. Especially children.

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      There is one TV they all share that’s hooked up to a giant hamster wheel that they take turns running on. If the person on the wheel stops running they are executed and fed to the rats that the children eat.

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      kim jong un is corralling people into the public squares to watch TV on big projectors, after which they are immediately executed

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      they have to find a tourist who has a laptop and plug in one of the USB flashdrives South Korea airdrops over the border and then hope the flashdrive isn’t just filled with anti-North Korea propaganda on it…

      I heard that they passed around one flashdrive that had James Cameron’s Avatar (2008) on it like the holy grail until Kim’s daughter caught wind of it and executed them as part of her 5th grade graduation ceremony.

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        My first ever encounter with North Korea as a concept, was when I was a little kid, and there was a thing set up at the local library by some reactionary NGO, “donate your old flash drives” for exactly that purpose.

        I’d like to say I went home and looked up North Korea and found information that doesn’t come from the CIA and their assets, but I gotta tell ya, I was like eight, and I pretty much stopped thinking about it after my mum and I left the library building. Like any seven or eight year old would. I suspect I only remember it because they had it set up with little slots on the big board to plug sticks into, and each slot was overlaid with a photo of the country’s leader so it looked like the sticks were stuck into his mouth, and that’s really freaking funny no matter whose mouth it is, when you’re seven or eight years old and find that kind of humor to be the height of comedy.

        So yeah, lots of reactionary nuts do this. Or at least, it was super common back then.

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            Oh my gosh, yep, that’s them! I never thought I’d see that again! I’d convinced myself that 8 year old me must have misremembered the installation… nope, that splash page looks exactly what I remember from the public library that day! I can’t believe they’re still around!

            (I kind of wish someone would do that kind of “counter the constant state propaganda!” campaigns with communist theory and decolonial stuff in Western countries. That’d certainly be more useful than this.)

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              the problem with the western professional class they have nothing to gain from not being shitlibs and the treats to lose. if you stumble across tiktoks about north korea half the comments are about how they don’t actually care about the truth except if it’s bad. if they accepted that kim jong un isn’t going around telling people he doesn’t have an asshole they might have to accept that they benefit from the worst crimes on earth. that’s a hard pill to swallow, especially when it means you might have to reconsider buying a new car every year. i kind of think these flash drives are useless idealism (in the philosophical sense) there, and they’d be idealism here

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                Yeah, that’s a good point. I’m just kinda all out of good ideas for how to actually convince Western liberals, especially politically unconscious victims of the Red Scare, that ML theory is simply the best way to look at the world because it offers the most correct analysis, and that they should be communists, not for any moral reasons, but because it is correct and inevitable. So sometimes I have wild fantasies of just stealing propaganda tactics from lib idiots like these.

    • I mean, censorship is something I’m really against in principle, but having a communist government be in charge of filtering all media entering the country and block all the Western reactionary slop for us, so I don’t have to see it if I don’t specifically go looking for it and go to the effort of bypassing security measures, sometimes sounds like a really good idea. I like the idea of being insulated from all the nonsense, and having things free of political messaging, or from a communist perspective, to watch and read instead. I mean, I do say a lot I want an Overton Window so skewed that Stalin looks like a liberal, so… blocking Western anti-communist slop is certainly a way for a country to make strides towards that.

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    “Obviously the DPRK is just killing all of it’s citizens left and right how else would you explain their… checks notes wait their population has increased by how much since the ceasefire? No…No… this can’t be- OH MY GOD THE DPRK HAS CLONING TECHNOLOGY!!” - Some liberal probably (Hint: It has more than doubled, and thats even during the famine after the USSR collapsed. Growth slowed down, but didn’t stop during it. They grew in population slightly more than the south, 2.58x vs 2.6x since the war ended, and while they are slowing down they are still growing even now. Meanwhile Occupied Korea is facing demographic collapse.)