Ok if you’re worried about your “love” maybe don’t fucking murder someone and then indirectly implicate them in your crime by immediately messaging them and admitting it. Maybe skip the whole murdering part tbh. I dunno.
That sentence just comes off crazy to me. “I’m worried about you. Oh btw, let me confess all this shit so you’re now obligated to snitch on me to police otherwise you’re committing a pretty serious crime. I’m sure they and the media will be very normal and treat you as an innocent bystander to all this.”
People talk about trauma dumping, but goddamn. This is criminal (heh) levels. I feel bad for this person.
Long answer short: This is what lawyers are for. Anything you say to police except “i want a lawyer” can AND WILL be used against you. You are absolutely not obligated to tell the police anything. However, when you get a lawyer, and they see that the police have enough to charge you as an accomplice, then you’ll be advised to tell the police what you know (through the lawyer or in court).
Anything besides getting a lawyer and cooperating with the investigation via the lawyer would probably result in getting charges. FOr example, say they did delete messages. That could get charges. Say they tell a lie after being caught off-guard (no, he didn’t tell me anything). That’s a charge. Maybe they misspeak and accidentally say something even more incriminating (“i mean neither of us liked Kirk, but…”) that’s a charge.
IMO “snitching” is different when done with a lawyer, since at least you’re protecting yourself. Snitching without a lawyer just puts everyone in danger, including yourself. What @Justice@lemmygrad.ml was saying is that if the roommate was left totally in the dark, then they could truthfully answer (through their lawyer or on the stand) that they had no knowledge of the crime. But now that there’s concrete proof of their knowledge, any lawyer will advise them to cooperate in order to avoid charges.
I will add I was also referring to like “harboring” a suspect, but that may not even apply. Maybe it’s more “obstructing justice” I don’t know how these work for this scenario.
I can guess that if someone texts you they murdered someone and tells you plans for a getaway or whatever, you do nothing with that information, and later the person is captured and the messages discovered… you’re gonna have a “not good” time.
It would be one thing I think to be generally aware of the murder either through some sort of witnessing of it (guy running away from the scene) or they confess to you verbally in person at some point.
It’s a bit different I think when it’s during the “manhunt” stage and the guy is directly contacting you with information such as they did it, how they did it, where they are currently located, etc. At the absolute least cops are gonna be digging into your entire life to find out why you were contacted and why you didn’t report them to police immediately. That’s just common sense on their end. And that investigation and possible (because I’m not sure) charges is what I meant. You’re subjecting a totally outside person to the authorities. Whether or not anything happens legally from it, you’re gonna have to get a lawyer and deal with years of shit when you could have honestly said “He never mentioned it to me ever” otherwise.
Of course just the circumstances of being the roommate basically guarantees they were going to investigated the moment he decided to actually do this… but yeah.
Ok if you’re worried about your “love” maybe don’t fucking murder someone and then indirectly implicate them in your crime by immediately messaging them and admitting it. Maybe skip the whole murdering part tbh. I dunno.
That sentence just comes off crazy to me. “I’m worried about you. Oh btw, let me confess all this shit so you’re now obligated to snitch on me to police otherwise you’re committing a pretty serious crime. I’m sure they and the media will be very normal and treat you as an innocent bystander to all this.”
People talk about trauma dumping, but goddamn. This is criminal (heh) levels. I feel bad for this person.
I thought no one is obligated to reveal information unless asked in court.
Long answer short: This is what lawyers are for. Anything you say to police except “i want a lawyer” can AND WILL be used against you. You are absolutely not obligated to tell the police anything. However, when you get a lawyer, and they see that the police have enough to charge you as an accomplice, then you’ll be advised to tell the police what you know (through the lawyer or in court).
Anything besides getting a lawyer and cooperating with the investigation via the lawyer would probably result in getting charges. FOr example, say they did delete messages. That could get charges. Say they tell a lie after being caught off-guard (no, he didn’t tell me anything). That’s a charge. Maybe they misspeak and accidentally say something even more incriminating (“i mean neither of us liked Kirk, but…”) that’s a charge.
IMO “snitching” is different when done with a lawyer, since at least you’re protecting yourself. Snitching without a lawyer just puts everyone in danger, including yourself. What @Justice@lemmygrad.ml was saying is that if the roommate was left totally in the dark, then they could truthfully answer (through their lawyer or on the stand) that they had no knowledge of the crime. But now that there’s concrete proof of their knowledge, any lawyer will advise them to cooperate in order to avoid charges.
Yeah, all of this.
I will add I was also referring to like “harboring” a suspect, but that may not even apply. Maybe it’s more “obstructing justice” I don’t know how these work for this scenario.
I can guess that if someone texts you they murdered someone and tells you plans for a getaway or whatever, you do nothing with that information, and later the person is captured and the messages discovered… you’re gonna have a “not good” time.
It would be one thing I think to be generally aware of the murder either through some sort of witnessing of it (guy running away from the scene) or they confess to you verbally in person at some point.
It’s a bit different I think when it’s during the “manhunt” stage and the guy is directly contacting you with information such as they did it, how they did it, where they are currently located, etc. At the absolute least cops are gonna be digging into your entire life to find out why you were contacted and why you didn’t report them to police immediately. That’s just common sense on their end. And that investigation and possible (because I’m not sure) charges is what I meant. You’re subjecting a totally outside person to the authorities. Whether or not anything happens legally from it, you’re gonna have to get a lawyer and deal with years of shit when you could have honestly said “He never mentioned it to me ever” otherwise.
Of course just the circumstances of being the roommate basically guarantees they were going to investigated the moment he decided to actually do this… but yeah.