Yeah, all of this.

I will add I was also referring to like “harboring” a suspect, but that may not even apply. Maybe it’s more “obstructing justice” I don’t know how these work for this scenario.

I can guess that if someone texts you they murdered someone and tells you plans for a getaway or whatever, you do nothing with that information, and later the person is captured and the messages discovered… you’re gonna have a “not good” time.

It would be one thing I think to be generally aware of the murder either through some sort of witnessing of it (guy running away from the scene) or they confess to you verbally in person at some point.

It’s a bit different I think when it’s during the “manhunt” stage and the guy is directly contacting you with information such as they did it, how they did it, where they are currently located, etc. At the absolute least cops are gonna be digging into your entire life to find out why you were contacted and why you didn’t report them to police immediately. That’s just common sense on their end. And that investigation and possible (because I’m not sure) charges is what I meant. You’re subjecting a totally outside person to the authorities. Whether or not anything happens legally from it, you’re gonna have to get a lawyer and deal with years of shit when you could have honestly said “He never mentioned it to me ever” otherwise.

Of course just the circumstances of being the roommate basically guarantees they were going to investigated the moment he decided to actually do this… but yeah.

Ok if you’re worried about your “love” maybe don’t fucking murder someone and then indirectly implicate them in your crime by immediately messaging them and admitting it. Maybe skip the whole murdering part tbh. I dunno.

That sentence just comes off crazy to me. “I’m worried about you. Oh btw, let me confess all this shit so you’re now obligated to snitch on me to police otherwise you’re committing a pretty serious crime. I’m sure they and the media will be very normal and treat you as an innocent bystander to all this.”

People talk about trauma dumping, but goddamn. This is criminal (heh) levels. I feel bad for this person.

Kirk was incredibly annoying. Annoying enough for all this… well, clearly ol’ Tyler made his decision on that front (allegedly).

Being a “vaguely right winger with indescribable politics” is basically 90% of Americans though. I think this guy was definitely more dabbling in the 4chan style memes which are more right wing. Based on the bullet casings.

I did say before he was 100% a groyper. I later made a comment responding to someone where I sort of toned that down to 100% terminally online, 4chan, “gamer culture.” Basically aligned heavily and integrated into those communities based on the “memes.” 4chan, for the record, is packed to the gills with Nazis who are furries, pro-LGBTQ to varying degrees, etc. One moment they’re talking about hailing Adolf and the next they’re talking about wanting an anime catboy partner or whatever. It’s been that way for at least 15 years. (And of course many are super hardcore against any thing viewed as not “cishet white people” across the board.)

The political views the average American can simultaneously hold in their mind, while remaining resolute that they are not political views at all, is honestly incredible.

(This is not a snarky question)

How is “meme posting” or “shit posting” while engaged in a high profile murder not nihilistic? If there’s no discernible political message to be found here it just becomes destruction for destruction’s sake. What else is that?

Nick Fuentes

Famously far left

Yeah this is the main thing for sure

There’s also some amount of like Kirk being viewed as the institutionalist to some degree. That sounds insane, but just saying. Kirk was all onboard team-Republican whatever that message might be. Fuentes seeks a much more, I dunno what word to use, “extremist” I guess, direction for the American right. He’s basically all in on just doing genocides with no apologies or hiding it. He’s an open white nationalist. He literally said Kirk didn’t support white people (this was prior to Kirk’s death) presumably because of support for Israel which of course they view as Jewish and “not white.”

Truly Hitlerian stuff. Which again sounds insane considering Kirk was very Hitlerian. Not Hitlerian enough though for some Hitlerians. American politics in a nutshell. Fundamentalist Hitlerians vs The Hitler Reformation movement. Or something.

He’s still sticking to something resembling the law which is odd in a way. Why bother? He already violated it with LA. The liberals have all collectively bent the knee or committed mass suicide since January, so why bother pretending to care that the Illinois governor said “no.” Yeah it would result if a possibly insane situation and “constitutional crisis” but is that not what these guys are purposely doing anyway? They’re just breaking all the institutions without much of anything seemingly planned on the other side. Nothing beyond lofty meaningless rhetoric anyway. The dumbest thing possible.

How many people at these conferences are asking him why he keeps calling Nick Fuentes a leftist?

I wonder if his little doggy Kash even bothered giving him the truth or just lied to him knowing he prefers to slurp that bullshit down rather than being aware of it actively.

It’s almost comical but identifying a nonexistent group which is really an entire ideology which the US at least pretends to be in favor of… to be terrorists. It’s not even worth typing it. Band of Brothers is officially illegal though. Soon ICE is gonna summarily execute the like 2 remaining WWII vets. They talked about fighting fascism. Hey, can’t have that. You don’t like Hitler? To the camps.

You just know the Nazis and hogs are gonna eat this shit right out of his gaping asshole. Zero pausing to wonder about future ramifications if the pendulum swings against them even for a brief moment. Full steam ahead on human and civil rights abuses.

Yeah.

Also the choice of target matters. The reason I overlook Luigi’s disjointed but definitely right wing politics (he’s an average American in that way) is because he arrived at a valid target. Allegedly. Free Luigi.

I’m never going to pretend to feel an ounce of anything for Kirk. At the end of the day though, despite his apparent rising prominence (even though I highly suspect that was astroturfed and basically “not real”), I don’t feel he was the correct or even a beneficial target to take out for any cause I would like to see advanced.

Another vapid soulless husk will be propped up in his spot once they shovel his corpse into the ground. He’ll be forgotten except on some dumbshit yearly remembrance thing right wingers jack off to.

While a CEO is and was easily replaced, I can’t argue much with that target. Everyone in the country and world hates those guys. Especially fucking health insurance CEOs. The only more popular target might be, I dunno, a Black[noun] CEO. I’ll avoid naming names because I don’t want some jackbooted eighth grade dropout kicking my door in and demanding I… stop observing reality.

When I saw that video of Luigi (allegedly) I had to rewatch it like 100 times. He made that shit look so fucking effortless and cool. It helped that the target 100% deserved it. I think I even laughed a little bit. It’s probably a reflection on how good things still surprisingly are for Americans that every kid from like 16-25 wasn’t immediately 3D printing guns and you know. Practicing. In a legal, safe environment.

If they keep dropping quality of life… history already says what the results will be. On one hand millions of people will have a miserable existence. On the other hand when people have absolutely nothing to live for they might start tossing dynamite at the Tsar. Probably something would-be Tsars should consider.

I mean besides all the “memes” being fairly straightforwardly groyper stuff?

Definitely terminally online. Deep into “gaming” (derogatory) “culture.” 4chan stuff.

If the dude wasn’t a groyper somehow then he’s whatever you call someone who is a groyper in every other sense except they don’t watch Fuentes and don’t identify as a part of that sort of segment of the online right wing. I would personally just call that a groyper and move on. If you’re putting 4chan memes on bullet casings to shoot someone, anyone, you know. That’s some groyped up loser shit.

Luigi also (allegedly. He’s innocent) had writings on the casings, but his was not steeped in deep blackpilled, 4chan, groyper style “memes.” So he isn’t thrown in with groypers even though his ideology also seems to have been mostly far right wing with the exception of a personal grudge with the healthcare industry in the US.

I’m not just calling all these groypers for fun or out of hand. Had he not targeted Kirk (Fuentes target for months/years) and had he not wrote on the casings, I’d probably just say “Typical deadender blackpilled school shooter looking to make his name famous.” But I can tack on groyper because signs point that way. “Best case” is he was essentially aligned with groypers but somehow wasn’t explicitly one. To me that doesn’t matter much. 🤷

I guess groypers who maybe had a romantic relationship with a LGBTQ person are “leftists” now.

Fuentes will be interested in this new development. He did allegedly suck off a fellow fascist one time. Someone get him a copy of Capital. Welcome!

If they released his browsing habits it would make things very clear.

Kash isn’t that much older than me and he’s definitely a terminally online creature himself. He knows exactly what’s going on and he’s purposely going to make sure that a major part of all of this is “trans ideology.” Even if that never comes into play legally, he wants to make sure that’s the media cycle.

He’s a disgusting sad little man. That’s why he got the job…

I’d love to know what “leftist groups” they even managed to find in fucking Utah, lmfao. The one person with a Biden 2020 sticker still on his truck. “That’s one of them goddamn commies right there!”

His roommate is irrelevant.

Dude was a groyper and anyone pretending otherwise is lying.

Many groypers, for the record, fall under LGBTQ. They might be closeted, they might be self-hating, they might be straight men chasing, whatever the case, they’re still groyped up.

If those are public schools this is gonna be a big fact whoopsie of lawsuits. If they said something in a classroom or in like a chat with students or whatever that’s one thing. Posting otherwise is 100% protected speech. The professors are a weird gray area (publicly funded uni but they aren’t government employees) but any public school teachers have a solid and easy to win civil rights violation case against any school district dumb enough to do this.

I hope they all sue the fuck out of these chudlords and overreacting Karens.

In the mean time, are there any libbed up groups digging up statements mocking George Floyd being murdered, deportation of immigrants, etc.? Tons of public school teachers are republicans. You just know there’s a bunch of them who said insane shit over the years. If the right wing wants to be Karens and hand wring and diaper shit, well, shit your diapers back at them. Fighting right wing liberal diaper shitting with worse, smellier less right wing liberal diaper shitting.

Relevant excerpt from one of those old timey poems that went pretty hard:

"First Envy, Eldest-Born of Hell, embrued Her hands in blood, and taught the Sons of men to make a death which Nature never made, and God abhorr’d, with violence rude to break of life ere half its length was run, and rob a wretched brother of his being.

With joy Ambition saw, and soon improv’d the execrable deed—'Twas not enough by subtle fraud to snatch a single life, puny impiety! Whole kingdoms fell to sate the lust of power; more horrid, the foulest stain and scandal of our nature became its boast.—One Murder made a Villain, Millions a Hero.—Princes were privileg’d to kill, and numbers sanctified the crime.

Ah! why will Kings forget they are Men? And Men that they are Brethren? Why delight in human sacrifice? Why burst the ties of Nature, that should knit their souls together in one soft bond of amity and love?

Yet still they breathe destruction, still go on inhumanely ingenious to find out new pains for life, new terrors for the grave, artificers of Death! Still Monarchs dream of universal Empire growing up from universal ruin."

• Death: A Poetical Essay, Beilby Portus, 1759

“Artificers of Death” pretty much sums up our modern “kings” and “princes” just as well as it did then. These people truly live by the old idea that they are heroic for killing millions, but no one else better even think it’s kinda funny or at least karmic if one of them gets got.

You know the correct way to deal with people who attempt coups? You don’t put the mfers in prison that’s for sure.

Lula knows what he must do. He won’t. But it would be so goddamn funny

I think people use jugular because it’s a more familiar term in pop culture or just everyday usage. “Go for the jugular” is often used as “Go for the kill” when describing dog attacks and such.

But yeah it doesn’t take a doctor or anything to see the incredible spraying of the blood and recognize arterial bleeding. From there just a bit of first aid knowledge tells you “bro’s dead.” Can’t tourniquet off the head… he’d need a prepared surgeon next to him. Even under those perfect circumstances my understanding is such a wound is more than likely fatal.

Although I will say on a really morbid note or whatever. I found this video not all that disturbing in comparison to the perhaps hundreds of videos I’ve seen of Palestinians being murdered in every possible way. I’m not even going to detail further but people that have seen them probably know what I mean. It’s like Kirk was still a human even as he was sitting there bleeding out. A whole body. Still a recognizable figure.

Nah. You can see in the video (which is obviously incredibly graphic and I wouldn’t recommend anyone watch) he immediately passes out. The shot effectively ripped open his carotid artery causing his head to dump blood and his heart to pump out all of his blood. He was passed out within one or two seconds. I’d suspect dead in under a minute due to no oxygen to the brain.

Somehow Cuba is always, and I do mean always, on the right side of every world issue since the Revolution. I hope in my lifetime a truly unchained Cuba is witnessed.