• Justice@lemmygrad.ml
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    9 hours ago

    How many people at these conferences are asking him why he keeps calling Nick Fuentes a leftist?

    I wonder if his little doggy Kash even bothered giving him the truth or just lied to him knowing he prefers to slurp that bullshit down rather than being aware of it actively.

    It’s almost comical but identifying a nonexistent group which is really an entire ideology which the US at least pretends to be in favor of… to be terrorists. It’s not even worth typing it. Band of Brothers is officially illegal though. Soon ICE is gonna summarily execute the like 2 remaining WWII vets. They talked about fighting fascism. Hey, can’t have that. You don’t like Hitler? To the camps.

    You just know the Nazis and hogs are gonna eat this shit right out of his gaping asshole. Zero pausing to wonder about future ramifications if the pendulum swings against them even for a brief moment. Full steam ahead on human and civil rights abuses.

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      How many people at these conferences are asking him why he keeps calling Nick Fuentes a leftist?

      Lmao no fucking way. If this schism is real I might as well try to understand the difference between these grifters. What exactly makes Nick Fuentes different from Kirk? How much worse is he than Cucker Tarlson and Asmongolf?

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        It’s entirely that Fuentes is an old school openly antisemitic nazi who only cynically opposes isntrael because he actually hates Jews even though he also hates Arabs and Muslims while Kirk was the more mainstream evangelical zionist form of fascism

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          Yeah this is the main thing for sure

          There’s also some amount of like Kirk being viewed as the institutionalist to some degree. That sounds insane, but just saying. Kirk was all onboard team-Republican whatever that message might be. Fuentes seeks a much more, I dunno what word to use, “extremist” I guess, direction for the American right. He’s basically all in on just doing genocides with no apologies or hiding it. He’s an open white nationalist. He literally said Kirk didn’t support white people (this was prior to Kirk’s death) presumably because of support for Israel which of course they view as Jewish and “not white.”

          Truly Hitlerian stuff. Which again sounds insane considering Kirk was very Hitlerian. Not Hitlerian enough though for some Hitlerians. American politics in a nutshell. Fundamentalist Hitlerians vs The Hitler Reformation movement. Or something.

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            There’s also some amount of like Kirk being viewed as the institutionalist to some degree. That sounds insane, but just saying.

            Well yes. He was the front man of a substantial political fundraising and propaganda apparatus. That’s institutional by definition. By comparison, Fuentes is just an influencer. Kirk’s political line was determined by what gets evangelical crackers to open their wallets for Republican political campaigns (There are limits here. Your job is to sell ethno-religious strife as an alternative to any materially beneficial policy, but you’re not supposed to wear your Grand Wizard robe to the rally). Fuentes’s political line is determined by what creates the most controversy possible for the sole purpose of promoting himself.

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          It’s entirely that Fuentes is an old school openly antisemitic nazi who only cynically opposes

          A little European flair, huh? How sophisticated.

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        I don’t know the deep nitty gritty of it, but the gist I get is that guys like Kirk, Carlson, and Shapiro see the MAGA movement as a long term project of the conservative Republican movement. It’s something to built the next generation of GOP politics and electoral successes on.

        The groypers, while also being farther right (at least openly) than the establishment MAGA crowd, are more in line with that Trump 2016 energy of A Pox On Both Party’s Houses. They want to see the whole system burn, including the GOP establishment, and replaced with their fascist dystopia.

        (I’m not really sure where Asmongold lands in all this; my suspicion is that he’s an opportunist that’s only invested as long as he keeps getting $$$ from the star chamber of 95 year old conservative billionaire ghouls)

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          This is basically it. Tucker Carlson probably straddles the line between conservatives nationalist and closeted actual white nationalist, but is definitely interested in a long term viable project. He’s also tight with Thiel, Musk, and the technofascist movement which, frankly, is by far the most successful of the various far right groups seizing power.