• Rom [he/him]@hexbear.netEnglish
    42·
    4 hours ago

    Groyper smokes a fash and the government responds by cracking down on the left, love it here.

    (Just kidding, I know they were already planning to do this and this was the pretense they were waiting for)

    • SmithrunHills [he/him]@hexbear.netEnglish
      3·
      32 minutes ago

      I wish more baby leftists stopped trying to claim Democrats are just incompetent and powerless, these ghoulish fucks are every bit as evil as their Republican counterparts.

  • Justice@lemmygrad.mlEnglish
    49·
    7 hours ago

    How many people at these conferences are asking him why he keeps calling Nick Fuentes a leftist?

    I wonder if his little doggy Kash even bothered giving him the truth or just lied to him knowing he prefers to slurp that bullshit down rather than being aware of it actively.

    It’s almost comical but identifying a nonexistent group which is really an entire ideology which the US at least pretends to be in favor of… to be terrorists. It’s not even worth typing it. Band of Brothers is officially illegal though. Soon ICE is gonna summarily execute the like 2 remaining WWII vets. They talked about fighting fascism. Hey, can’t have that. You don’t like Hitler? To the camps.

    You just know the Nazis and hogs are gonna eat this shit right out of his gaping asshole. Zero pausing to wonder about future ramifications if the pendulum swings against them even for a brief moment. Full steam ahead on human and civil rights abuses.

    • Lussy [any, hy/hym]@hexbear.netEnglish
      36·
      6 hours ago

      How many people at these conferences are asking him why he keeps calling Nick Fuentes a leftist?

      Lmao no fucking way. If this schism is real I might as well try to understand the difference between these grifters. What exactly makes Nick Fuentes different from Kirk? How much worse is he than Cucker Tarlson and Asmongolf?

      • ElChapoDeChapo [he/him, comrade/them]@hexbear.netEnglish
        43·
        6 hours ago

        It’s entirely that Fuentes is an old school openly antisemitic nazi who only cynically opposes isntrael because he actually hates Jews even though he also hates Arabs and Muslims while Kirk was the more mainstream evangelical zionist form of fascism

        • Justice@lemmygrad.mlEnglish
          33·
          6 hours ago

          Yeah this is the main thing for sure

          There’s also some amount of like Kirk being viewed as the institutionalist to some degree. That sounds insane, but just saying. Kirk was all onboard team-Republican whatever that message might be. Fuentes seeks a much more, I dunno what word to use, “extremist” I guess, direction for the American right. He’s basically all in on just doing genocides with no apologies or hiding it. He’s an open white nationalist. He literally said Kirk didn’t support white people (this was prior to Kirk’s death) presumably because of support for Israel which of course they view as Jewish and “not white.”

          Truly Hitlerian stuff. Which again sounds insane considering Kirk was very Hitlerian. Not Hitlerian enough though for some Hitlerians. American politics in a nutshell. Fundamentalist Hitlerians vs The Hitler Reformation movement. Or something.

          • PorkrollPosadist [he/him, they/them]@hexbear.netEnglish
            15·
            5 hours ago

            There’s also some amount of like Kirk being viewed as the institutionalist to some degree. That sounds insane, but just saying.

            Well yes. He was the front man of a substantial political fundraising and propaganda apparatus. That’s institutional by definition. By comparison, Fuentes is just an influencer. Kirk’s political line was determined by what gets evangelical crackers to open their wallets for Republican political campaigns (There are limits here. Your job is to sell ethno-religious strife as an alternative to any materially beneficial policy, but you’re not supposed to wear your Grand Wizard robe to the rally). Fuentes’s political line is determined by what creates the most controversy possible for the sole purpose of promoting himself.

        • Lussy [any, hy/hym]@hexbear.netEnglish
          16·
          5 hours ago

          It’s entirely that Fuentes is an old school openly antisemitic nazi who only cynically opposes

          A little European flair, huh? How sophisticated.

      • PKMKII [none/use name]@hexbear.netEnglish
        18·
        5 hours ago

        I don’t know the deep nitty gritty of it, but the gist I get is that guys like Kirk, Carlson, and Shapiro see the MAGA movement as a long term project of the conservative Republican movement. It’s something to built the next generation of GOP politics and electoral successes on.

        The groypers, while also being farther right (at least openly) than the establishment MAGA crowd, are more in line with that Trump 2016 energy of A Pox On Both Party’s Houses. They want to see the whole system burn, including the GOP establishment, and replaced with their fascist dystopia.

        (I’m not really sure where Asmongold lands in all this; my suspicion is that he’s an opportunist that’s only invested as long as he keeps getting $$$ from the star chamber of 95 year old conservative billionaire ghouls)

  • darkcalling [comrade/them, she/her]@hexbear.netEnglish
    33·
    7 hours ago

    Worrying if not stuck down by courts. This could be a move further than even the UK’s criminalization of Palestine Action (and consequently anyone protesting for Palestine being swept up in it). Mainly in that any leftist demonstration can instantly be labeled a riot by “antifa terrorists” and goons sent in to arrest all present and perhaps even worse case ship them off to black sites or CECOT without rights for torture. It would also of course be a short hop and skip from this to totally freezing and seizing the finances of communist parties and other left groups as affiliates of “antifa” and thus materially supporting terrorism.