• The_Grinch [he/him]@hexbear.net
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          29 days ago

          I’m not. I watched the clip and am undecided while waiting for further evidence. I actually don’t care what LSF, Ethan Klein, or Destiny has to say about it.

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            29 days ago

            You are… doing exactly that. “Maybe the DDGer gangstalkers are right” is an accurate characterization of the initial comment I replied to.

            Their narrative is the reason you are talking about it and the content of your post comes from their narrative.

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              28 days ago

              I disregard their narrative and look at the picture and see with my own two eyes what appears to be a shock collar. The idea of Hasan using a shock collar isn’t that crazy. Like it or not they’re incredibly common.

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                28 days ago

                You literally repeated their narrative, the origin of this “story”. You did the opposite of disregarding it lol.

                Please hexbear I am trying to help you.

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                  28 days ago

                  I didn’t “repeat their narrative” I didn’t take their word for anything. I looked at the same picture and came to the same conclusions. It looked like it might be shock collar and I explained my reasoning very clearly. Now I am certain it’s a shock collar thanks to the clip where Hasan shows it off, including the strip of black electrical tape covering the holes where the contacts would be if they hadn’t been unscrewed. I looked at all the unedited clips and played around with stills in GIMP, myself.

                  For the record, I like and support Hasan generally, and probably will continue to even after this. I’ve successfully ignored and pushed back against the previous 999999 bullshit attacks on Hasan I’ve encountered. I even pushed back against arguments made by a couple of the people you were also pushing back against for different reasons. I am not claiming that he shocked Kaya in the clip, the dewclaw explanation seems perfectly reasonable.

                  Hasan is not leftist Jesus. He is fallible. Don’t put all your eggs in one basket. Broken clocks are right twice a day, and so on.

                  If I’m wrong about this I will drop all social media including hexbear and touch grass for an entire month.

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                    28 days ago

                    The screenshot and theory you are now introducing is also from a destiny subreddit/discord.

                    They see a thing, they claim a negative story about it regardless of context, usually the worst possible interpretation, and then run with it. And those who are manipulated just say, “yeah okay, looks like LEDs/shock collar/he shocked her to me because you told me that is what happened” and it is just one big harassment-fest based on nearly nothing. The smart thing to do is to chill out and not get manipulated rather than making bets about touching grass or logging off or whatever. And to not do the same gullible thing again immediately.