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I will not be spinning up instances of anything. I will seed hashes in bittorrent-like P2P networks, I will put my posts where they fit, I will look for posts from others in the most anti-censorship ways I can find, and I will hope devs and server admins create a version of Lemmy that’s fitting for more of my posts - while hurrying toward a possible future where Tor isn’t enough to make Lemmy relevant anymore, because P2P networks become the only place worth posting anything.

  • dastanktal [comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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    I don’t necessarily think they are right about Tor. Why isn’t DNS and IP addressing sufficient?

    Most DNS registers aren’t going to blast your DNS records, and even if they do, you don’t have to specify ones from the United States or in the West, you can go to other countries that are more friendly to whatever particular ideology you’re working with.

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      It hasn’t even been a year since Hexbear spent a month in limbo because of Domain Name shenanigans brought on by its own admins.

      Most DNS registers aren’t going to blast your DNS records, and even if they do, you don’t have to specify ones from the United States or in the West, you can go to other countries that are more friendly to whatever particular ideology you’re working with.

      Most DNS registrars aren’t going to abide with the demands of Law Enforcement?

      1. lol. What? I’m sorry, but that is incredibly naïve.
      2. Hopping around from domain name to domain name, country to country hoping for the best is not how to keep a community alive and will absolutely shrink your userbase every time. We are not the pirate bay, the service sites like hexbear offers are not nearly in demand as free shit.
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        Yeah because it’s easier and safer to find sites on tor?

        The DNS registers do work with the authorities, but it’s very, very, very rare for them to just straight up remove somebody’s records.

        DNS shenanigans involving non-renewal of records is a very very common issue among the internet not just hexbear.

        Tor supposedly has massive infiltration ftrom different governments and can suffer from degraded performance and security.

        Yes, setting up your DNS name with a DNS register in a country that’s hostile to the west such as possibly China or Russia would probably help insulate you from these issues.

        Like, what you’re talking about isn’t necessarily ridiculous, but as somebody that literally works in this industry in the west, I can tell you for a fact that these DNS registers do not give a flying fuck about the law unless it’s going to cost them lots and lots of money, like most capitalist companies.

        I’ve literally not been able to get them to take down hacking sites, scam sites, pornographic sites, CSAM sites, they don’t care. Not only that, DNS itself is decentralized, which is why it’s beneficial to have several DNS names that aren’t associated with Western countries.

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            No. Are you in government and can confirm the DNS registers are the bogey man you think they are?

            Tor federation sounds good but it also doesn’t feel like a priority. If y’all want it so bad go figure out how to add it to lemmy since it’s open source.

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              Lol. Boogey men? We regularly see piracy sites get nuked via compliance from registrars and their hosting providers. Your assertions otherwise are silly.

              I wish I could, but I have my own projects that require most of my attention if I’m going to be able to eat each month.

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                That’s really interesting, and I would love to know more about that, because last I recall, most piracy sites aren’t necessarily brought down by the DNS registers, but by their hosting providers. If you have an example of a DNS register responding like that, I’d love to know more about it.

                It is easier for the authorities to go after the host then it is for the DNS register.

                You’re not wrong on the tor thing, but I do think the concern is really overblown right now.